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RE: Amazing Coincidence, or Miracle?
December 4, 2014 at 1:29 pm
This is the kind of crap that frustrates me with believers. God is great because he (supposedly) helped someone find a misplaced wallet. Yet, there are hundreds/thousands of Christian kids wasting away in hospital beds, hundreds/thousands of Christian adults being beaten by their spouses, etc. It's quite clear they're looking for something, anything to reaffirm their faith in the face of overwhelming evidence of an apathetic reality, so they attribute the miraculous to the mundane.
At least Linus' blanket was real.
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RE: Amazing Coincidence, or Miracle?
December 4, 2014 at 1:32 pm
Ok, I'll be your huckleberry..
What makes a lost wallet more or less important than getting someone out of a hospitial bed?
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RE: Amazing Coincidence, or Miracle?
December 4, 2014 at 1:41 pm
Ask someone with a wallet standing next to someone in a hospital bed why finding their wallet if they lost it is just as important as the bedridden person getting up.
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RE: Amazing Coincidence, or Miracle?
December 4, 2014 at 1:52 pm
(December 4, 2014 at 1:32 pm)Drich Wrote: Ok, I'll be your huckleberry..
What makes a lost wallet more or less important than getting someone out of a hospitial bed?
That doesn't even dignify a response.
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RE: Amazing Coincidence, or Miracle?
December 4, 2014 at 2:30 pm
(December 4, 2014 at 1:32 pm)Drich Wrote: Ok, I'll be your huckleberry..
What makes a lost wallet more or less important than getting someone out of a hospitial bed?
The comparison is what makes all the difference. I'm not even joking with this one.
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RE: Amazing Coincidence, or Miracle?
December 4, 2014 at 8:20 pm
(December 4, 2014 at 1:32 pm)Drich Wrote: What makes a lost wallet more or less important than getting someone out of a hospitial bed?  hock:
Did you read that back to yourself before you hit the 'post reply' button?
Are you really that insensitive?
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RE: Amazing Coincidence, or Miracle?
December 4, 2014 at 9:07 pm
You're seriously asking that of someone who prayed for us to get life-threatening diseases like cancer and AIDS?
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RE: Amazing Coincidence, or Miracle?
December 4, 2014 at 9:39 pm
(December 4, 2014 at 8:20 pm)IATIA Wrote: (December 4, 2014 at 1:32 pm)Drich Wrote: What makes a lost wallet more or less important than getting someone out of a hospitial bed? hock:
Did you read that back to yourself before you hit the 'post reply' button?
Are you really that insensitive?
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RE: Amazing Coincidence, or Miracle?
December 4, 2014 at 10:15 pm
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(November 29, 2014 at 3:57 pm)Castiel Wrote: I grew up in a Christian home, believing in miracles and that God proves himself in many ways each day. I no longer believe in God, but some of the stories of "miracles" I've heard are just... hard to dismiss.
A friend of a friend supposedly felt "God" telling her to pull over while she was on the highway. She ignored it several times, and then finally gave in and pulled over. She got out, looked down, and found her husband's wallet, which had apparently fallen off his truck earlier that day. My family shared her story and basically said that "God knew exactly how many times He'd have to tell her to pull over before she did it, and it was all in His perfect timing so that she'd pull over at the right place".
That is just one scenario that I have been told about by my super spiritual family. I'm just wondering what any atheists, or simply anyone who's not a Christian, believes about this.
What are the odds of that happening? Does this mean there's something like "fate" that caused this? Is it some other force of nature we've yet to understand that is responsible for these unbelievable coincidences? Or... could there be a God, after all? If so, why would any loving God take the time to find someone's wallet, but not rescue someone from disease, war, rape, hunger... etc.?
Nothing personal against your family, but the odds are greater that this is a tall tale.
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RE: Amazing Coincidence, or Miracle?
December 4, 2014 at 10:36 pm
(December 4, 2014 at 9:07 pm)Stimbo Wrote: You're seriously asking that of someone who prayed for us to get life-threatening diseases like cancer and AIDS?
Lest anyone think my colleague here is engaging in hyperbole....
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