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RE: To The Religious People...Can God See Sin?
December 2, 2014 at 6:54 pm
(December 2, 2014 at 6:12 pm)abaris Wrote: (December 2, 2014 at 6:10 pm)Godschild Wrote: Why didn't you make them aware of their treatment of you, and the best way to quite them would to go find the answer in the scriptures and show them why you believe differently. I've been made to feel the same way, but I wasn't going to give up what I knew was right nor my God because others thought they knew it all.
See, that's part of the problem right here. Everyone can have their personal Jesus, reading the same book.
Not quite true, everyone can have a personal relationship with Jesus but, He is the same for all.
GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: To The Religious People...Can God See Sin?
December 2, 2014 at 7:42 pm
(December 2, 2014 at 6:54 pm)Godschild Wrote: (December 2, 2014 at 6:12 pm)abaris Wrote: See, that's part of the problem right here. Everyone can have their personal Jesus, reading the same book.
Not quite true, everyone can have a personal relationship with Jesus but, He is the same for all.
GC
Guess you're right, he's the same for everyone after all...
As a fictional character.
"Every luxury has a deep price. Every indulgence, a cosmic cost. Each fiber of pleasure you experience causes equivalent pain somewhere else. This is the first law of emodynamics [sic]. Joy can be neither created nor destroyed. The balance of happiness is constant.
Fact: Every time you eat a bite of cake, someone gets horsewhipped.
Facter: Every time two people kiss, an orphanage collapses.
Factest: Every time a baby is born, an innocent animal is severely mocked for its physical appearance. Don't be a pleasure hog. Your every smile is a dagger. Happiness is murder.
Vote "yes" on Proposition 1321. Think of some kids. Some kids."
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RE: To The Religious People...Can God See Sin?
December 2, 2014 at 8:17 pm
Quote:I do more than read,
Yep. YOu even see things that aren't there.
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RE: To The Religious People...Can God See Sin?
December 2, 2014 at 10:20 pm
(December 2, 2014 at 6:54 pm)Godschild Wrote: (December 2, 2014 at 6:12 pm)abaris Wrote: See, that's part of the problem right here. Everyone can have their personal Jesus, reading the same book.
Not quite true, everyone can have a personal relationship with Jesus but, He is the same for all.
GC
I can't i have logical faculties working over time preventing me from doing so and i lack faith and at the moment i don't have any. Neither can i accept with blind ignorance that jesus really exist because well there is no historical proof and there is no proof of god and the whole set up for Christianity is not really original as only a small minuscule 15% is original the other 85% is copied from other sources. Now unless i become ignorant of science, history, common sense, and my way of thinking with logic and reason i cannot believe in something that did not exist nor what happened. - 1st world problems - 1st world education - 1st world problem for religion as it is going to Africa.
Atheism is a non-prophet organization join today.
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RE: To The Religious People...Can God See Sin?
December 3, 2014 at 4:38 am
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(December 2, 2014 at 5:35 pm)Godschild Wrote: (December 2, 2014 at 3:53 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: That sounds like one of the most fucked up and overly-convoluted walkie-talkie treehouse communication schemes I've heard, GC. Why doesn't God the Father just man up and look at sin himself without having his Alpha-2 Holy Spirit communicate the "sins" to him via GodNet™?
Another quick thing I noted..
That somehow doesn't surprise me at all.
First of all you do not get to decide what God does, period. ...but that's all you guys do isnt it? The bible can only read by interpretation so surely the only way to decide what 'God does' is imagine you've got the ear of him. (December 2, 2014 at 5:35 pm)Godschild Wrote: Second, what's not right about that, I check out what I still am questioning and when an answer from others fits without contradiction of the scripture I accept it, there have been times when I've accepted answers and later find them not to hold enough water to accept any more, God reveals to those who are serious about learning.
GC
'You gotta believe before he reveals himself'
Sounds like a con to me.
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RE: To The Religious People...Can God See Sin?
December 3, 2014 at 4:43 am
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God has never once made the slightest attempt to communicate with me in any intelligible way. Ever. Not even when I was five, and they made us pray at school. I just sat there thinking, "what's going on?" I was not an evil child. I have always been the best behaved student (and as such the most bullied) and consider myself a good person. Still not enough for even a whiff of God.
I can't believe something before I have a reason to believe it. No one can, if they are being honest. It's just that the reason given is rarely the real one.
If God wants to communicate with me, he should be more than capable of doing it in a way I can't possibly misinterpret. And if he doesn't, well that's his problem.
The fact that I have noticed a general negative correlation between religiosity and niceness in people is not exactly winning me over either.
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RE: To The Religious People...Can God See Sin?
December 3, 2014 at 3:29 pm
(December 3, 2014 at 4:43 am)robvalue Wrote: God has never once made the slightest attempt to communicate with me in any intelligible way. Ever. Not even when I was five, and they made us pray at school. I just sat there thinking, "what's going on?" I was not an evil child. I have always been the best behaved student (and as such the most bullied) and consider myself a good person. Still not enough for even a whiff of God.
I can't believe something before I have a reason to believe it. No one can, if they are being honest. It's just that the reason given is rarely the real one.
If God wants to communicate with me, he should be more than capable of doing it in a way I can't possibly misinterpret. And if he doesn't, well that's his problem.
The fact that I have noticed a general negative correlation between religiosity and niceness in people is not exactly winning me over either.
Could be it's not the right time yet, God knows when the right time is for each person and will through the Holy Spirit bring conviction upon your heart. Then maybe you've hardened yourself to God and want be able to hear His calling through the Holy Spirit. Some thoughts on why you find yourself without a perceived call from God. Don't let the negative actions of others dilute your ability to hear. Christians are not perfect and never will be and, it's not proper to judge Christians by a standard no one can live up to.
GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: To The Religious People...Can God See Sin?
December 3, 2014 at 3:31 pm
Then politely tell Christians to fuck off with the judging as well.
If God really gives a shit about me believing in him, he knows where I live and I'll be waiting.
In every country and every age, the priest had been hostile to Liberty.
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RE: To The Religious People...Can God See Sin?
December 3, 2014 at 3:34 pm
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I'm not judging anyone, simply observing religious people that I have met in my life (not counting the internet) and nonreligious, and noticing a difference in how nice they are. And the more religious, the less nice they are.
That is only based on my experience so I'm not claiming it as fact. But I've had 37 years of experience now.
And I've come damn near to killing myself before now, so god has really missed his chance if he wanted to communicate with me.
The thing is, the standards of what you accept for god existing are impossible not to meet, so you can prove he exists to yourself even if he doesn't.
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RE: To The Religious People...Can God See Sin?
December 3, 2014 at 3:42 pm
GC has nothing to offer but smarmy unsubstantiated preachy bullshit. Adults professing to have a personal relationship with imaginary friends are fucking mental.
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