The New York Choke Hold Case

[Heywood]

He's asking pretty much the same question I asked earlier in this thread, and you missed the sarcasm of the question both times. What good are body cameras if a police officer can murder someone on video and still not worry about even an indictment? If our justice system doesn't actually hold cops accountable for their actions, even when they are on video, then body cams aren't going to stop police brutality.

Or, maybe you aren't blind to the obvious sarcasm and you're intentionally misconstruing Congressman Gregory's words as if to suggest he is against the idea of body cams, because that's just the sort of dishonest fuckery you always do, the kind of dishonest fuckery you have to do, to try to score a point off the 'left'.

What you and the congressman fail to realize is that the camera's provide the evidence to show the laws need to be changed so that in cases like Gardner's police brutality can be prosecuted. What good did the video do? Well it convinced a whole lot of people that yeah....maybe we should change the way the laws treat police.

But you guys on the left...you like crap like this. You arn't really interested in solving problems. You want to keep bitching about problems...use those problems to demonize your enemies...and convince the dummies of the world that if they put you in power....you will solve them.

[Losty]

grow up Heywood. There's no way you're dense enough to actually believe that either of them meant they don't think the police should wear the body cams.

[Mudhammam]

But you guys on the left...you like crap like this. You arn't really interested in solving problems. You want to keep bitching about problems...use those problems to demonize your enemies...and convince the dummies of the world that if they put you in power....you will solve them.

...As opposed to "the right," who never bitch unless there is a legitimate grievance, never politicize any of the world's miseries or demonize their opponents, and only reluctantly accept power so that they can better the plight of those most unfortunate among us.

[Minimalist]

grow up Heywood. There's no way you're dense enough to actually believe that either of them meant they don't think the police should wear the body cams.

I disagree. He is surely dense enough.

[Losty]

grow up Heywood. There's no way you're dense enough to actually believe that either of them meant they don't think the police should wear the body cams.

I disagree. He is surely dense enough.

He is dishonest enough. Being disingenuous is Heywood's favorite debate tactic.

[Heywood]

grow up Heywood. There's no way you're dense enough to actually believe that either of them meant they don't think the police should wear the body cams.

Gardner's mother was asked about body cams and she claimed they were a waste of money. She was sincere about that. I do think that many on the left are simply too stupid to realize that change happens in steps. Cops do need a little leeway in doing their job....body camera's will tell us if they have too much leeway or not enough. Nobody with half a brain should even question their utility......unless of course they aren't actually interested in solving the problem.

[simplemoss]

grow up Heywood. There's no way you're dense enough to actually believe that either of them meant they don't think the police should wear the body cams.

Gardner's mother was asked about body cams and she claimed they were a waste of money. She was sincere about that. I do think that many on the left are simply too stupid to realize that change happens in steps. Cops do need a little leeway in doing their job....body camera's will tell us if they have too much leeway or not enough. Nobody with half a brain should even question their utility......unless of course they aren't actually interested in solving the problem.

you seriously need medication if you believe that

[Heywood]

Gardner's mother was asked about body cams and she claimed they were a waste of money. She was sincere about that. I do think that many on the left are simply too stupid to realize that change happens in steps. Cops do need a little leeway in doing their job....body camera's will tell us if they have too much leeway or not enough. Nobody with half a brain should even question their utility......unless of course they aren't actually interested in solving the problem.

you seriously need medication if you believe that

You seriously need medication if you don't believe problems get left unsolved out of political expediency.

The left has no incentive to solve immigration because the moment they do so....they no longer have a wedge issue. They no longer have a good reason to convince latinos to vote for them.

[Losty]

Neither side has a good reason to solve immigration Heywood

[Heywood]

Neither side has a good reason to solve immigration Heywood

I'm glad you see it that way. This is the smartest thing I have heard you say in a while.