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RE: Micheal Brown deserved to be shot.
December 4, 2014 at 2:22 pm
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(December 4, 2014 at 2:16 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Quote: If Michael Brown had reacted passively when confronted by Darren Wilson he would most likely still be alive today.
If Mike Brown were white, would Wilson have hassled him for jaywalking?
I'm white. I've been ticketed for jaywalking. Did I think it was chickenshit? Yes I did, but I didn't get violent with the cop. Of course I hadn't just robbed a store so I wasn't worried about going to jail. Just pissed that it was going to cost me money.
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RE: Micheal Brown deserved to be shot.
December 4, 2014 at 2:26 pm
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(December 4, 2014 at 2:16 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Quote: If Michael Brown had reacted passively when confronted by Darren Wilson he would most likely still be alive today.
If Mike Brown were white, would Wilson have hassled him for jaywalking?
I thought he was walking down the center of the road when he should have been using a sidewalk. Either way jaywalking is dangerous too. Should get stopped for that anyway.
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RE: Micheal Brown deserved to be shot.
December 4, 2014 at 2:27 pm
(December 4, 2014 at 2:14 pm)paulpablo Wrote:
I agree with everything you're saying although I still think he probably deserved to be shot just based on what I've seen which admittedly isn't much but it's all I have to go on which is why I voted for probably.
The situation as I see it is there's one huge guy, and another guy with dreadlocks and neck tattoos, they go into a store, intimidate everyone who gets in their way, steal, walk out into the middle of the street get in trouble with the police and one of them gets shot.
Yes... one of them gets shot. Twelve times. Dead. And you're ok with it because of the admittedly little evidence you've seen. Seems to me you haven't really thought this through.
Quote:Admittedly a lot of my judgement is based on how they look and act. Not for being black, but even here in england I don't have a high opinion of guys who walk around like gangsters with neck tattoos bullying people and stealing. It doesn't matter if they're white black or asian. I wish more of those types of people would get shot to death here in England personally.
So, because you don't have a high opinion of them, they should be shot dead? That's pretty twisted, dude.
Quote:I could be wrong though it could just be my bias against people who seem to be wanna be gangsters. No offense to anyone with a neck tattoo by the way it's just my opinion that they make you look like a bit of a scumbag.
"No offense, but I think you look like a scumbag" seems pretty disingenuous to me...
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RE: Micheal Brown deserved to be shot.
December 4, 2014 at 2:41 pm
Guys, you're all saying Brown shouldn't have been shot because he was unarmed. But how was Wilson supposed to know that? He didn't frisk him did he? Brown's behaviour wasn't exactly screaming 'unarmed'. I think if a cop thinks that someone has a gun, he's going to use his gun too.
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RE: Micheal Brown deserved to be shot.
December 4, 2014 at 2:45 pm
Yep...and it always end up that the guy without a gun ends up dead and the guy with the gun and the body armor and the SWAT team backup protests that he was "afraid."
We need cops who aren't such fucking pussies.
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RE: Micheal Brown deserved to be shot.
December 4, 2014 at 2:48 pm
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I have real trouble with the word deserve in the poll. I don't think that either robbing a convenience store or punching a cop should be death penalty offenses. Neither is jay-walking, but sometimes a car hits you and it is. That's kind of how I see Brown. It's not a question of did he deserve to die, but rather if you rob a convenience store and follow that up with a tussle with a police officer in which you reach into the car, is it likely you will die at the hands of the cop?
The answer is yes, and it's more likely than it should be in an ideal world. Cops are human. They are armed. They are trained to protect themselves. And they are not held to the same standards in a fight as other people. They can legally shot when others can't. In Brown's case I don't think the result would have been different regardless of his color. He got shot because he is big enough to be scary and tussled with a cop.
The problem in Ferguson is police reaction to protests. It is true that dealing with cops is more dangerous if you happen to be brown-skinned. That should not be so. But Brown doesn't make a very good poster child, for the cause.
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RE: Micheal Brown deserved to be shot.
December 4, 2014 at 2:56 pm
Quote: I don't think that either robbing a convenience store or punching a cop should be death penalty offenses.
In no jurisdiction in the country is either of those a capital crime. Neither is "not obeying a cop." Somewhere along the line cops have taken it on themselves to be judge, jury and executioner.
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RE: Micheal Brown deserved to be shot.
December 4, 2014 at 2:59 pm
(December 4, 2014 at 2:41 pm)Bad Wolf Wrote: Guys, you're all saying Brown shouldn't have been shot because he was unarmed. But how was Wilson supposed to know that? He didn't frisk him did he? Brown's behaviour wasn't exactly screaming 'unarmed'. I think if a cop thinks that someone has a gun, he's going to use his gun too.
Because he didn't have a gun drawn, and he was running away. If Wilson thought he might turn around and pull a gun after he ran away, he should have gotten in his car and called for backup. You should not be drawing your gun that shoots real bullets unless you're in imminent danger.
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RE: Micheal Brown deserved to be shot.
December 4, 2014 at 3:00 pm
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(December 4, 2014 at 1:22 pm)Losty Wrote: (December 4, 2014 at 1:17 pm)simplemoss Wrote: No and fuck you
Calm yourself, it's simply a question. You and I know that Michael Brown was a star pupil on his way home from volunteering at the local animal shelter and that evil KKK wizard shot him right after he finished helping an old lady cross the street, but not everyone knows that. Mmmkay? This right here reminds me of 4chan's humorous take on this whole situation:
>Eagle Scout, student body president, and regular blood donor Mike Brown was on his way back from his volunteer shift at the soup kitchen when suddenly Neo-Nazi KKK Grand-Wizard and climate-skeptic Darren Wilson saw the glow of his halo.
>He stepped out of his gas-guzzling hummer and took chase.
>Mike Brown, weighed down by his backpack full of nobel peace prizes and handwritten letters to grandma, was soon overtaken by the Aryan Nation member.
>The only escape was across the street, but alas, there was no crosswalk.
>Faced with certain death or breaking the law, the straight-A student made his stand.
>He attempts to reason with his attacker but the illiterate racist murderer only has ears for white supremacy speeches and Mein Kampf passages.
>"Any last words?" said Darren Wilson through a mouthful of chewing tobacco.
>Mike Brown looks his executioner in the eye, puts his hands up clearly indicating surrender and says "World Peace"
>"FUCK BLACK PEOPLE" shouts Darren Wilson as he unloads his fully automatic assault rifle.
>If not for the Republican party, he may have survived, but the skinhead's extended magazine unfettered by their legislation unloads hundreds of rounds into the Harvard-bound, endangered species advocate.
>Satan himself then steps back into his German Panzer Tank and drives away while listening to AC/DC on full volume.
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RE: Micheal Brown deserved to be shot.
December 4, 2014 at 3:05 pm
MFW...lol
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