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RE: Mars?
January 3, 2015 at 1:26 pm
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(January 3, 2015 at 11:59 am)IATIA Wrote: What are you going to breath?
What are you going to grow?
Where will you put the cows?
And assuming there can be a 'science fiction' domed structure (while disregarding the resources necessary to build and maintain), what group of people can survive in a closed environment.
Talk about cabin fever.  hock: The logistics of -that- have already been thought out and we're capable (the last bit is hit or miss to an extent, I guess...but astronauts do get screened thoroughly..so we do all we can). The trouble, currently, is actually getting there. Notice they launched our little exploration pod atop an old engine. We still don't have those new engines yet. Big PR push right now to downplay that little kink. A lander and a probe is one thing. Habitation (even with the novel ideas bounced around) is a whole different type of payload.
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RE: Mars?
January 3, 2015 at 1:46 pm
Today's astronauts do not have to spend the rest of there lives cooped up together. A whole different issue.
I would think that if the technology is available, the Antarctic and our deserts would be a great place to start. At least they have air.
I see that probably the biggest reason in doing the Mars thing is "because it is there". The problem with that philosophy is that no one lives at the top of the Himalayan. It was cool to get there, but let us go home where it is warm and comfy now and have a beer while watching the football games.
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RE: Mars?
January 3, 2015 at 1:51 pm
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(January 3, 2015 at 1:46 pm)IATIA Wrote: I see that probably the biggest reason in doing the Mars thing is "because it is there". The problem with that philosophy is that no one lives at the top of the Himalayan. It was cool to get there, but let us go home where it is warm and comfy now and have a beer while watching the football games. If that was how we operated our worldwide migration -on this planet- would be difficult to explain. Awesome, crossed the Atlantic, now lets go home. Canoed across the pacific - hell fellas turn this log around it's time to go back to the hut and brag to our wives! I understand, lol, not dissing home and beers and warmth (or football) - but we do seem to have a bit of wanderlust. I'd hesitate to go so far as to call that wanderlust a philosophy, so I guess it just doesn't seem like a candidate for "a philosophy with a problem"?
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RE: Mars?
January 3, 2015 at 2:02 pm
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Yes, but they did end up where there was food, water, and air.
And I have not finished reading all of these posts, but what about the biological ramifications of 1/3 (0.38) gravity?
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RE: Mars?
January 3, 2015 at 3:01 pm
(January 3, 2015 at 11:59 am)IATIA Wrote: Where will you put the cows?
You'd bring insects to eat....maybe mice for some real meat. You would not bring cows.
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RE: Mars?
January 3, 2015 at 4:42 pm
(January 3, 2015 at 3:01 pm)Heywood Wrote: (January 3, 2015 at 11:59 am)IATIA Wrote: Where will you put the cows? You'd bring insects to eat....maybe mice for some real meat. You would not bring cows. Yeah I would. I did not climb to the top of the food chain to eat bugs nor am I an alley cat. 
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RE: Mars?
January 13, 2015 at 11:45 am
Honestly, I do see us colonizing mars in the future. I've been to the Kennedy/Housten space centers and seen personaly the stuff they have been working on.
Rovers with pressurized cabins, new lander tech, new methods of propulsion, etc.
I think one of the biggest issues we face now is
A.)getting there
B.)economic aspects
C.)and probably finding the right people for the trip. Think about it. Long amounts of time in compact spaces with other people? Probably gonna be stressful...js lol
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RE: Mars?
January 13, 2015 at 11:49 am
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Quote:C.)and probably finding the right people for the trip. Think about it. Long amounts of time in compact spaces with other people? Probably gonna be stressful...js lol
You have heard of Mars-500?
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RE: Mars?
January 13, 2015 at 12:28 pm
(January 13, 2015 at 11:49 am)Alex K Wrote: wolfclan96
Quote:C.)and probably finding the right people for the trip. Think about it. Long amounts of time in compact spaces with other people? Probably gonna be stressful...js lol
You have heard of Mars-500?
Well I think I heard it mentioned before but didnt know what it was.
I took a sec to look it up on wiki for a basic understanding and found this.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/MARS-500
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RE: Mars?
January 13, 2015 at 12:30 pm
Yes, that one
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