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RE: Since Heaven and Hell are not temporal ..
December 18, 2014 at 1:18 pm
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Here's the "God" argument, real simple.
There might have been some being that made reality as we know it. But if there is, we know nothing about it except that by assumption it made this reality. And we have no reason to believe it has since interacted with or cares about this reality. So if there is a creator, it's entirely irrelevant, unless some new evidence comes to light. Waving an old book around proves nothing. Any questions?
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RE: Since Heaven and Hell are not temporal ..
December 18, 2014 at 1:19 pm
(December 18, 2014 at 1:18 pm)robvalue Wrote: Here's the "God" argument, real simple.
There might have been some being that made reality as we know it. But if there is, we know nothing about it except that by assumption it made this reality. And we have no reason to believe it has since interacted with or cares about the reality. So if there is one, it's entirely irrelevant, unless some new evidence comes to light. Waving an old book around proves nothing. Any questions?
Also if said being existed he doesn't care about the fact that entropy will be the death of his own creation. So along those points in time he probably god bored and moved on not caring. that's if such a being existed.
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RE: Since Heaven and Hell are not temporal ..
December 18, 2014 at 1:28 pm
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Chad, one question.
When was there a war when the attacking side (the very ones who started the war) have the spoils of the war in the war they themselves start WHEN THEY LOOSE?
The Jewish people were attacked when the territory given to them by the UN (the WINING side of WW2) and miraculously won Against All Odds. The attacking nations should have received their fellow Muslims into their nations like is done routinely in history. They did not. Intentionally.
How about giving California or Texas back to the Mexicans?
Same principle.
The Muslims will never cease to attack Israel until the Muslim religion is destroyed.
The whole Palestinian issue is a ploy- using these people trapped by their own Islamic kind as bait for war.
One time Arafat spoke the truth, he said- "There is no such thing as the Palestinian people"....
Wicked is as wicked does.
Their Harvest is coming.
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RE: Since Heaven and Hell are not temporal ..
December 18, 2014 at 1:39 pm
The Jewish people have been taking land from the Palestinians for decades. They are an invading force.
I'll agree that the jews and muslims and christians are probably going to be at war over that section of the world for all time, all because of some stupid religion. However genocide and forced conversion is not going to work. Outside forces need to relegate certain equal pieces of land to these groups, and make them be happy with what they have.
Or I suppose we could just leave them to kill each other for a few thousand more years. I don't know.
Should the US give all the land back to the Mexicans and Native Americans? Probably.
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RE: Since Heaven and Hell are not temporal ..
December 18, 2014 at 1:40 pm
(December 18, 2014 at 1:14 pm)professor Wrote: You guys want proof of God.
You are going to get it, but you will not like it if it falls on you. We should try to count the various ways you guys find to repeat the "god will show up... SOON" mantra.
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RE: Since Heaven and Hell are not temporal ..
December 18, 2014 at 1:44 pm
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(December 18, 2014 at 1:28 pm)professor Wrote: How about giving California or Texas back to the Mexicans?
Same principle.
Considering America has taken what wasn't there's by force, yes pretty much same principle.
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RE: Since Heaven and Hell are not temporal ..
December 18, 2014 at 1:47 pm
Ooh gods gonna get me? I'm shitting my pants.
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RE: Since Heaven and Hell are not temporal ..
December 18, 2014 at 1:53 pm
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Chad, outside forces already DID divide that land. The Muslims got a section and the Jews got a section.
That was too much for the Arabs. As I said, the Muslims wanted it ALL, just as they do now.
They went to war with tiny Israel and lost.
Again- BOTH groups were given land by the UN mandate.
Rob, we are not there yet.
When we get there, you can look for your toilet.
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RE: Since Heaven and Hell are not temporal ..
December 18, 2014 at 2:07 pm
(December 18, 2014 at 1:14 pm)professor Wrote: You guys want proof of God.
You are going to get it, but you will not like it if it falls on you.
Yo deity's so fat....
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RE: Since Heaven and Hell are not temporal ..
December 18, 2014 at 2:08 pm
(December 18, 2014 at 1:53 pm)professor Wrote: Chad, outside forces already DID divide that land. The Muslims got a section and the Jews got a section.
That was too much for the Arabs. As I said, the Muslims wanted it ALL, just as they do now.
They went to war with tiny Israel and lost.
Again- BOTH groups were given land by the UN mandate.
Rob, we are not there yet.
When we get there, you can look for your toilet.
Got another rapture date for us yet?
Hopefully you don't stand us up this time.
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