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December 13, 2014 at 9:47 pm
(December 13, 2014 at 9:33 pm)Natachan Wrote: I'm wondering what is meant by "created man" in this context. There were, after all, cities before this. Cultures. There might have been written records preceding this (not sure, will check). So what does the idea of man being created 4000BC mean?
Natachan,
adam and eve were the first human life on this planet. God has put the time of their creation around 4000BC. There was no cities and no human cultures in existence before this time.
The first city in existence was created by Cain(Adam and Eves son) ( Gen 4:17) And the name of that city was called Enoch. This was the first city.
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December 13, 2014 at 9:54 pm
(December 13, 2014 at 9:47 pm)tonyintheLight Wrote: (December 13, 2014 at 9:33 pm)Natachan Wrote: I'm wondering what is meant by "created man" in this context. There were, after all, cities before this. Cultures. There might have been written records preceding this (not sure, will check). So what does the idea of man being created 4000BC mean?
Natachan,
adam and eve were the first human life on this planet. God has put the time of their creation around 4000BC. There was no cities and no human cultures in existence before this time.
The first city in existence was created by Cain(Adam and Eves son)( Gen 4:17) And the name of that city was called Enoch. This was the first city.
Never mind that there would not be enough genetic diversity for the human race to emerge from only two people. Never mind that outside the Bible, which has no supporting evidence for its claim, there is no proof that there ever was a man named Cain. Never mind even that you then suppose that a global flood is supposed to have happened in your worldview that science does not support.
But no human cultures until 4000 BC?! Did you even take sixth grade history classes? What about the Egyptians, Chinese, Indus River Valley Civilization, Sumerians, Jericho, Hittites, Persians, Native Americans, etc?
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This is what happens when you allow bullshit in your history textbooks. *Facepalm*
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December 13, 2014 at 9:54 pm
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(December 13, 2014 at 8:59 pm)tonyintheLight Wrote: (December 13, 2014 at 8:47 pm)Spooky Wrote: You stated you would answer any question:
Dinosaurs?
In regards to Dinosaurs, there is a belief called 'the Gap Theory' among some Christians. We know that God created man around 4000BC, but the world could have existed for many years before man took dominion.
God says that the world was without form and void(proceeding Gods Judgement on the life before man) before adam and eve.
Adam and eve where told to replenish the earth.
Dinosaurs do not debunk the Bible.
Which version of the Bible are you using? I have every version. Some support your twist, others don't.
In case you're wondering, I'm reviewing Genesis right now.
Genesis 1:21-25 ->So God created the great creatures of the sea and every living and moving thing with which the water teems, according to its kind. And god saw that it was good. God blessed them and said, "Be fruitful and increase in number and fill the water in the seass, and let the birds increase on the earth." And there was evening, and there was morning-the fifth day. And god said, "Let the land produce living creatures according to their kinds: livestock, creatures that move along the ground, and wild animals, each according to its kind." And it was so.
Can you expand on your "Gap Theory"? And in this particular version, adam and eve are told to "Fill the earth and subdue it".
I reject your reality and substitute my own!
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December 13, 2014 at 9:56 pm
(This post was last modified: December 13, 2014 at 9:58 pm by Natachan.)
Then how do you explain Jericho? Jericho was founded around 9600 BCE. This is over five thousand years before you say humans existed. There is pottery in the city that can be dated to this time. Sumeria was founded around 5500BCE and had writing that can be dated to 3500BCE, and I tend to believe that since we've found writing that old some written systems were in place before that.
These are FACTS. I am willing to concede allegory in the bible, I am willing to concede that science and history are incomplete. But these cities and their records are FACTS.
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December 13, 2014 at 9:57 pm
(This post was last modified: December 13, 2014 at 9:58 pm by Elskidor.)
How do you go from avoiding religious nonsense into your adult years, and then decide to become an uneducated neanderthal?
Wait, I don't even care. I'm leaving this thread before I lose anymore brain cells.
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December 13, 2014 at 9:57 pm
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So... not to be a stickler, but do you have any evidence that Adam and Eve were the first human life on the planet?
Because...
http://www.columbia.edu/itc/anthropology...in_gil.pdf
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubaid_period
http://www.ancient.eu/sumer/
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December 13, 2014 at 10:14 pm
(This post was last modified: December 13, 2014 at 10:15 pm by tonyintheLight.)
Quote:Which version of the Bible are you using? I have every version. Some support your twist, others don't.
If you're not reading out of a 1611KJV Bible then you have a counterfeit Bible. The text of the KJV is Gods pure preserved word. The modern Bibles are corrupted and come from completely different manuscripts to the KJV.
God refers to this kind of corruption as leaven (1Cor 5:6)
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December 13, 2014 at 10:17 pm
Why not study the bible in the original languages? I've read some of the Greek, and the 1611KJV, while being a wonderful masterpiece of English prose, does miss some of the meaning in the original languages.
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December 13, 2014 at 10:18 pm
(December 13, 2014 at 10:14 pm)tonyintheLight Wrote: Quote:Which version of the Bible are you using? I have every version. Some support your twist, others don't.
If you're not reading out of a 1611KJV Bible then you have a counterfeit Bible. The text of the KJV is Gods pure preserved word. The modern Bibles are corrupted and come from completely different manuscripts to the KJV.
God refers to this kind of corruption as leaven (1Cor 5:6)
So an English translation thousands of years removed from the Hebrew/Aramaic source is somehow the perfect version of the Bible? My friend, your life is a maze of contradictions.
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December 13, 2014 at 10:19 pm
Gotta be a Poe.
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