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Whats so offensive about Christianity
#11
RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity
Believing that we can't be good people without the magic skydaddy book is one of the most disgusting things about Christianity (and some other religions as well).
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#12
RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity
(December 18, 2014 at 9:53 am)JonDarbyXIII Wrote:
(December 18, 2014 at 9:42 am)Drich Wrote: The bible based Christian is just one that knows he is lost with out redemption. Generally speaking it is those who don't pretend that they are/can be 'good and decent people.'

That's the point though. I know you would say that "no one is good, but One," and all that, but many of these preachers are pretending to be (and are viewed as) 'good, godly men.'

I have no problem with preachers having faults. I have a problem with those who preach the most about the very things they are doing repeatedly.
I also have problems with any Christian who pretend to be anything more than what we are. Preacher or grandmother makes no difference.
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#13
RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity
Holding up the bible as any kind of worthwhile document is offensive. Simple as that.

If you don't agree with the bible, get another book and don't call yourself a Christian.

Indoctrination is beyond offensive, and using a Bronze Age book to justify your prejudice, and even try and make laws, is despicable.
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RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity
(December 18, 2014 at 9:55 am)FatAndFaithless Wrote: Believing that we can't be good people without the magic skydaddy book is one of the most disgusting things about Christianity (and some other religions as well).

Good is relitive, meaning it is always the lessor of two evils. Oscar Sheindler was consider by many to be a 'Good Nazi' Because he saved several hundred jews. This man was only judged 'good' because he was the lessor of the evil that is attributed to his Nazi brethern. But when compared to today's standard he is a monster who owned and operated a forced labor camp, who's sole purpose was to produce the hardware needed for the German war machine. Who saw many more die in slavery under his care than he saved. But, because he was the best Nazi, he is touted as a hero.

So again 'good' is relitive. That being the case I will agree that people can be 'good' because that bar can be raise or lowered to fit our current soceitial understanding/need of that term.

Also with that in mind that is why the current standard of 'good' has very little meaning to God. His standard of 'worthyness' is based in Righteousness, not whether or not one can simply be better than the evil of this world. As such, None are righteous/None are 'good' by the standard of righteousness.
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RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity
Oh I understand, Drips. God is the standard of righteousness, and there's no way we can live up to it. We're "fallen" and must redeem ourselves through faith.

That's precisely what's disgusting.
In every country and every age, the priest had been hostile to Liberty.
- Thomas Jefferson
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#16
RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity
(December 18, 2014 at 10:28 am)FatAndFaithless Wrote: Oh I understand, Drips. God is the standard of righteousness, and there's no way we can live up to it. We're "fallen" and must redeem ourselves through faith.

That's precisely what's disgusting.

why?
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#17
RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity
Quote:why?

Because it's not true?
The fool hath said in his heart, There is a God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
Psalm 14, KJV revised edition

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#18
RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity
Because to pretend that the book and the followers don't contradict themselves constantly is somewhat hilarious.
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#19
RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity
(December 18, 2014 at 9:32 am)Alex K Wrote:
(December 18, 2014 at 9:29 am)FatAndFaithless Wrote: Pfft, I think the Bible itself is pretty ghastly and offensive.

Oh, sure. Christians usually ignore most of that stuff, though. Whenever they don't, that's when things get offensive.

It's offensive to me when they do ignore the tough stuff, particularly when they don't want to personally follow it, but think other tough stuff is just fine for EVERYBODY else to follow, especially under force of law.
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#20
RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity
The idea that the only way we can be truly "good" is by following the untestable and unchangable dictations of an unassailable and unverifiable absolute source is destructive to human progress.
In every country and every age, the priest had been hostile to Liberty.
- Thomas Jefferson
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