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RE: what would you identify as?
December 24, 2014 at 10:15 pm
(December 24, 2014 at 7:04 pm)rasetsu Wrote: 1.2 meh. Certainty is overrated.
Fiine. Put me down there too... but for all intents and purposes, and unless it's starkly proven otherwise (at this point? it'd take a whole lot of boring nothing)... it may as well be 1.
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RE: what would you identify as?
December 24, 2014 at 10:21 pm
I'm a 6.5. I'd be deeply horrified if the Xian god turned out to exist. I'd be at least disappointed if some other god made itself known. I like evolution. It makes sense. I like things to make sense.
I love funeral potatoes, though. <3
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RE: what would you identify as?
December 24, 2014 at 10:31 pm
I disagree because I identify myself as a gnostic atheist and I don't think I am 100% sure, just like I'm not 100% sure about gravity, yet I claim knowledge on it
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RE: what would you identify as?
December 24, 2014 at 10:38 pm
Really depends on the god. For a deist god I'm a 5 for the abrahamic god I'm a eight.
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
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RE: what would you identify as?
December 24, 2014 at 10:41 pm
If I'm 99% sure there is no god, what worth is there in calling myself an agnostic just by 1%? *Just douchebag comments from drunken Santa.
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RE: what would you identify as?
December 24, 2014 at 10:42 pm
With regards to your god? 7.
With regards to any god? 6.
Then again, I'm an apatheist, so I really don't care.
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RE: what would you identify as?
December 24, 2014 at 11:07 pm
I've never seen where the Dawkins scale requires integers so
I'm asymptotically up against 7 even for the logically inconsistent gods (the self contradictory omnigods).
I can't get to 7 on those because, though they contradict logic, and though I
can't conceive of a system in which the logic we know does not hold, I can
conceive of the possible existence of a system of which I cannot conceive, one where
our normal logic doesn't apply, e.g. A and notA are simultaneously true for some A.
I know my "religious views" above show only 6.99999999 (or roughly one chance in seven hundred million,
(a slightly lower liklihood than winning Powerball on a single ticket)) but I only use that figure to avoid filling the screen with 9s.
So how, exactly, does God know that She's NOT a brain in a vat?
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RE: what would you identify as?
December 24, 2014 at 11:11 pm
That brings back my question - Why is it worth being uncertain just because of 0.1% chance? I'm only 99.9% sure gravity exists yet I'm a firm believer and I claim knowledge on it, possibly a 7 on a Dawkins scale.
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RE: what would you identify as?
December 24, 2014 at 11:21 pm
I am a 7 on the scale for the Abrahamic omnigods.
I am a 6 for any other god.
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RE: what would you identify as?
December 25, 2014 at 1:13 am
(December 24, 2014 at 4:43 pm)Lucanus Wrote: Hello and welcome! Why don't you post a thread in the Introduction forum so we can all get to know you? We'll bring biscuits!
Also, my views are:
against omnimax deities: 7 gnostic atheist (they fall in the realm of logical paradoxes)
against other deities: 6.9999
against pantheist claims: 6
Well-put, and a note-for-note layout of my views.
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