RE: Free Will and Loving/Rejecting God
January 5, 2015 at 11:45 pm
(This post was last modified: January 6, 2015 at 12:08 am by Drich.)
(January 5, 2015 at 5:36 pm)h4ym4n Wrote: (January 5, 2015 at 5:29 pm)Drich Wrote: I am take my ques from the bible only. I do assoceiate myself with several different 'denominations' as they strive to do the same. The harvest bible Chapel out of the Chicago area is one I most identify with.
That said, know that the bible does not say God is 'All Loving.' John 3:16 says that God's Love is conditional.
Omni-benevolence is a catholic doctrine first adopted/mandated in the 1870's http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omnibenevolence
Quite sometime after the bible was written.
Thats really interesting. Do you get a lot of flack from all the other christians that believe opposite from you? I'm sure you don't care.
Do you get questioned about you views from other christians that you first tell this to?
I've been a member of a christian forum for 8 maybe 9 years now. In that time there was only one guy who thought I was insane. The rest had questions, there like here at first people thought I was crazy, but the longer I kept at it and the more bible studies I had the greater the following i developed. It got to the point where I was being asked to settle theological arguement by giving a purly biblical perspective, and not a doctrinal answer.
After 5 years of that I turn to the websites atheism section, where lovly well mannered people asked respectful questions, and were unfairly harassed by the mods..
I found these questions far more satasifying to answer than the apologetical questions I was getting from the members.
Then some lost soul pushed the questions too far and was bann.. To which I protested, and was told to see if I could find an atheist venue to host my work. I went to a few. Was bann for beating up members (with logic and reason) which always got me bann for 'prostalitizing.' Till I found this website a few years back.
I do not enjoy the same level of respect here as I did at CF, but I give as good as I get, and I get the enjoyment of knowing (as I'm sure as the rest of my brothers here do) that however small I have made a difference a time or two.
That said I don't think any of the Christians on AF share a common denomination, yet we all get along just fine. Why? Because at our core we share the same belief, the rest of what we have wrong will be forgiven by the same grace given to us when we willfully sin.
(January 5, 2015 at 5:39 pm)dyresand Wrote: (January 5, 2015 at 5:34 pm)Drich Wrote: is this you poking yet more holes in my faith?
"I have nothing to say so don't write back?!?!"
In reality i could destroy your faith with one question i am a big enough person not to do it.
Oh, noes someone help me! Someone call off your secret weapon! Please, stimbo, minnie, equlax Im begging you call off you big dog and his one faith ending question!!! I didn't sign up for this, 'dries-sand' you got to promise to never ask me this question!!
Sorry, I couldn't do it any more.
Look, all you got to do is stop posturing. Stop pretending your better, and just let your Q&A do the bragging for you. Otherwise know I look forward to shredding you like the shark atheist looks forward to shredding christians who come here with little more than a two week Sunday school course in how to deal with atheists.
Look dry-sand if you think you need to ask me this faith ending question then ask it, who know maybe you're the atheist equilivent of David and you will slay Goliath. if youre bluffing then don't mention it again. STOP PRETENDING! You make me cringe for people like FF because you are on his side.
(January 5, 2015 at 5:41 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: Dyres...
One of you needs to take him behind the atheist wood shed and straighten him out.
(January 5, 2015 at 6:53 pm)dyresand Wrote: (January 5, 2015 at 6:36 pm)Stimbo Wrote: Cheers. I know it's completely irrational and maybe I'll explain one day.
Okay i just got 32 right now.