(January 10, 2015 at 6:22 am)robvalue Wrote: Science wasn't even my specialist subject, but you would have thought it was how much I go on about it.
I don't blame you. It's just that interesting a concept.
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Facts about Darwin: psychological and mental illnesses
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 I don't blame you. It's just that interesting a concept.  RE: Facts about Darwin: psychological and mental illnesses
January 10, 2015 at 11:57 am
(This post was last modified: January 10, 2015 at 11:58 am by robvalue.)
Sure is, it's like atheism: utterly simple, ginormously misunderstood. People seem to think that only these weird guys in white coats do "science" in some underground secret conspiracy lab. I think it's started to get a negative association with some groups (reality deniers).
Exactly. We use the scientific method every day without actually calling it that.
Ever baked a cake? You're doing science. Ever tried to work out where you left your keys? You're doing science. Ever planned a journey? You're doing science. If someone invented a better method for investigating reality, guess what we would have to use to determine its validity?
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
Erm... Pointing and guessing?
 (January 10, 2015 at 12:12 pm)Stimbo Wrote: If someone invented a better method for investigating reality, guess what we would have to use to determine its validity? Ooh! Ooh! Baseless assertions backed with quotations from a holy book! 
Nuh uh!
You make people miserable and there's nothing they can do about it, just like god.
-- Homer Simpson God has no place within these walls, just as facts have no place within organized religion. -- Superintendent Chalmers Science is like a blabbermouth who ruins a movie by telling you how it ends. There are some things we don't want to know. Important things. -- Ned Flanders Once something's been approved by the government, it's no longer immoral. -- The Rev Lovejoy
Everyone wins!
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
I am constantly dumbstruck by this idea some people keep saying that there are other ways to find out truth than science. If they worked, they would be science! It's not like there's some uber-science out there.
Is there? :o
They're just talking about the "truth" of philosophical concepts. Claiming it can't answer the "most important things in life", which are subjective things like the meaning of life and such.
 (January 10, 2015 at 4:07 pm)robvalue Wrote: I am constantly dumbstruck by this idea some people keep saying that there are other ways to find out truth than science. If they worked, they would be science! It's not like there's some uber-science out there.Some might say that mathematical truths, and if there is such a thing, moral truths, are examples of truth that science cannot discover.
He who loves God cannot endeavour that God should love him in return - Baruch Spinoza
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