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(January 12, 2015 at 10:22 am)Drich Wrote: Once they move out, then parental control evaporates.
Nowadays yes in the bronze age days... you weren't allowed to if you did then you mostly and highly likely end up dead.
Everyone eventually ends up dead. If a woman did not have a family or husband, she would likly have been forced into prostitution, or some other terrible lot.
Right off the bat with the bible, women start getting mistreated.
Gen 3:16 - Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and they conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband; he shall rule over thee.
Remember, it was all her fault in the first place! She screwed it up, they had a good deal and that no-good female messed it up. And the misogyny is just beginning.
In the next verse, Adam gets let off with less penalty than Eve for having listened to Eve: Gen 3:17 - And unto Adam he said, Because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy wife and hast eaten of the tree, of which I commanded thee, saying cursed is the ground for thy sake; in sorrow shalt thou eat of it all the days of thy life
And did you ever notice how it is always the women who are barren, never that the men are shooting blanks?
And of course Gen 19:8 where Lot offers up his own daughters to the crowd to be raped if only the mob will let his angelic house guests alone.
This is the one righteous man in Sodom?
You could easily keep this up for quite some time. Women's position in religion has never been a good one in either Judaism or Christianity.
On a more modern note, the Roman church refuses to change its canon law to allow women to become ordained as priests, relegating them to second fiddle status as nuns only. Hell, even the Calvinist Reform Church ordains women clergy, and it is hard to be even more paleolithic than those guys. I can also remember that during our brief period of attending Baptist services we had a pastor who was very much against women wearing any kind of pants to church. And he was also dead set against the young women coming to church with short skirts, the men complained that they could not keep there minds on the proceedings. Unreal. These guys can't keep there mind on the service but it's her fault for wearing a short skirt, not him for not keeping his mind where it belongs. We did not stick around that church all that long. We found another that realized it was the (at the time) twentieth century.
“To terrify children with the image of hell, to consider women an inferior creation—is that good for the world?”
― Christopher Hitchens
"That fear first created the gods is perhaps as true as anything so brief could be on so great a subject". - George Santayana
"If this is the best God can do, I'm not impressed". - George Carlin
January 12, 2015 at 1:54 pm (This post was last modified: January 12, 2015 at 1:55 pm by dyresand.)
(January 12, 2015 at 11:33 am)Drich Wrote:
(January 12, 2015 at 10:59 am)dyresand Wrote: Nowadays yes in the bronze age days... you weren't allowed to if you did then you mostly and highly likely end up dead.
Everyone eventually ends up dead. If a woman did not have a family or husband, she would likly have been forced into prostitution, or some other terrible lot.
More of a fact that woman would end up dead. They were pulled into sex slavery, raped in streets then killed, there is more reasons though but women back then weren't treated very humanly and they were very uneducated it sickens me to think people could do this to another human being.
I understand it still happens and hell the middle east still follows that tradition of treating woman like objects.
(January 12, 2015 at 11:33 am)Drich Wrote: Everyone eventually ends up dead. If a woman did not have a family or husband, she would likly have been forced into prostitution, or some other terrible lot.
More of a fact that woman would end up dead. They were pulled into sex slavery, raped in streets then killed, there is more reasons though but women back then weren't treated very humanly and they were very uneducated it sickens me to think people could do this to another human being.
I understand it still happens and hell the middle east still follows that tradition of treating woman like objects.
(January 12, 2015 at 1:54 pm)dyresand Wrote: More of a fact that woman would end up dead. They were pulled into sex slavery, raped in streets then killed, there is more reasons though but women back then weren't treated very humanly and they were very uneducated it sickens me to think people could do this to another human being.
I understand it still happens and hell the middle east still follows that tradition of treating woman like objects.
Again short bus, we all end up dead!
No one wins when it comes to religion because we all die from some groups of people who worship another brand of deity. Its like people who drink coke and pepsi then there is mountain dew, 7 up, sprite, dr pepper, etc.
January 12, 2015 at 4:11 pm (This post was last modified: January 12, 2015 at 4:12 pm by Nope.)
(January 11, 2015 at 9:12 pm)Drich Wrote: I asked my wife these questions and these are her answers:
Hello, Mrs. Drich.
(January 11, 2015 at 3:52 pm)Nope Wrote: I thought it would be interesting to find out where our various religious members agree and disagree with one another. So, if you are religious, do you believe that women can be pastors/rabbis/imams/reverend/leaders of a religious organization?
Drich's wife through Drich wrote:
Quote:No
Okay, why not? Which bible verses do you use to justify women not being able to serve as pastors? Is there something about women that makes them unsuited for work as a pastor or rabbi?
(January 12, 2015 at 3:18 pm)Raven Wrote: I guess that means the only winners are the unbelievers then. We get to avoid all brand nonsense. We get to just be, au natural as it were.
January 12, 2015 at 4:29 pm (This post was last modified: January 12, 2015 at 4:31 pm by Spooky.)
(January 12, 2015 at 4:11 pm)Nope Wrote: [quote='Drich' pid='842794' dateline='1421025146']
I asked my wife these questions and these are her answers:
Hello, Mrs. Drich.
(January 11, 2015 at 3:52 pm)Nope Wrote: I thought it would be interesting to find out where our various religious members agree and disagree with one another. So, if you are religious, do you believe that women can be pastors/rabbis/imams/reverend/leaders of a religious organization?
Drich's wife through Drich wrote:
Quote:No
Quote:Okay, why not? Which bible verses do you use to justify women not being able to serve as pastors? Is there something about women that makes them unsuited for work as a pastor or rabbi?
"Never trust anything that bleeds for a week and does not die"
Be it known I have nothing against women serving in leadership roles of any kind. My statement is facetious only. *
