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Christians. Prove That You Are Real/True Christians
RE: Christians. Prove That You Are Real/True Christians
Hmm, it seems I didn't get an answer.

I wonder if any theist wants to chip in. If you accept that belief in Jesus being the son of God is a requirement for being Christian, then the only way I can choose to be a Christian is by choosing to alter my actual brain to allow me to believe it. Would God prefer me to take such drastic action, and would he reward me for doing so? Or would he rather I stay as I am, and if so, am I going to be punished?

I'm simply not capable of believing such a claim on the current evidence. I didn't believe it when I was 5, and I've seen no new evidence since then. So to expect me to suddenly just believe it, even if I wanted to, is asking the impossible. So god and I have three options:

1- God can choose to supply more evidence to me
2- If he doesn't supply it, I can choose to augment my brain in an attempt to allow the required beliefs
3- If he doesn't, and I don't screw with my brain, I'll be a lifelong atheist, barring some sort of mental erosion as I get older

Would anyone like to comment on this? Smile

Or does anyone here want to state that I could choose to believe Jesus was the son of God? I could choose to say I believe it, but that doesn't mean I actually believe it.
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RE: Christians. Prove That You Are Real/True Christians
Apparent they have to be like Jesus, but not the petty, racist dick who gives bad advice in the bible, instead they have to be like the version of Jesus that only exists in their head.
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Well yes, that's the second hurdle. If I have to also believe Jesus gives good advice, that's another brain operation.
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(August 31, 2015 at 8:49 pm)Pyrrho Wrote:
(August 31, 2015 at 11:29 am)Drich Wrote: If I wind up in hell again, I will know that I absolutely deserve it. I asked for a second chance, and got it, then I screw it up again. I would turn and rightfully embrace my fate.

I don't even like you, but if it were up to me, you would not go to hell.  What does that tell you about me compared with your god?

That 'like' has nothing to do with whether or not we are sent to Hell. Or rather 'Liking a person' is no reason to drag them kicking and screaming into Heaven.
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(September 1, 2015 at 9:16 am)Drich Wrote:
(August 31, 2015 at 8:49 pm)Pyrrho Wrote: I don't even like you, but if it were up to me, you would not go to hell.  What does that tell you about me compared with your god?

That 'like' has nothing to do with whether or not we are sent to Hell. Or rather 'Liking a person' is no reason to drag them kicking and screaming into Heaven.

TLDR fuck wit we don't want anyone to go to hell that's that. Your god is a fucking monster if he sends people to hell. So a finite time on this world deserves infinite punishment yeah
god is a fucking monster indeed.
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(September 1, 2015 at 9:16 am)Drich Wrote:
(August 31, 2015 at 8:49 pm)Pyrrho Wrote: I don't even like you, but if it were up to me, you would not go to hell.  What does that tell you about me compared with your god?

That 'like' has nothing to do with whether or not we are sent to Hell. Or rather 'Liking a person' is no reason to drag them kicking and screaming into Heaven.

The point is that I would not send anyone to hell.  I do not believe anyone should be tormented for eternity.  And I would not drag anyone kicking and screaming into heaven, either.  No one would go there who did not want to go there (though not everyone who wanted to go there would get to go there either).

"A wise man ... proportions his belief to the evidence."
— David Hume, An Enquiry Concerning Human Understanding, Section X, Part I.
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