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RE: Christian Views on Parental Responsibility
January 21, 2015 at 1:40 pm
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Yeah, same for me: 10,13,17. Looks like this is a no-brainer from the atheist's side. I wonder how theists would respond. (Oh, Fr0d0, where are you when I need you?)
(January 21, 2015 at 1:40 pm)Darkstar Wrote: Might this be the biggest poll ever created? This method is much more efficient, though.
Shamelessly, I did make one with the maximum of 20 choices once. It wasn't terribly popular. At least on this one, there are really only three questions and the options only catch affiliation and one of three responses.
(January 21, 2015 at 1:39 pm)Natachan Wrote: Well 10 is a duh. 13 is a bit iffy, while this is the best choice. Is educate her of the options, but once she had all options it would be her choice. Although getting pregnant at 11 seems iffy, and if so I might demand she abort for safety reasons. And since the child is 11, then 17 is a no brainer
I have to agree. Being only 11 there may well be medical or psychological reasons to insist on the abortion or to avoid it. I think my choice would actually be determined more by the best judgement of what is safest for my daughter than anything else. So not really a moral consideration for me.
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RE: Christian Views on Parental Responsibility
January 21, 2015 at 2:57 pm
Many good choices.
Child wants to change religious affiliation: too young to make an informed decision/just doing it to rebel-no. Informed decision-go ahead.
Pregnant and wants to abort: Not my decision.
Wants to decline treatment under religious reasons: Under the age of majority? Fuck no.
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RE: Christian Views on Parental Responsibility
January 21, 2015 at 3:20 pm
(January 21, 2015 at 2:57 pm)Spooky Wrote: Many good choices.
Child wants to change religious affiliation: too young to make an informed decision/just doing it to rebel-no. Informed decision-go ahead.
Pregnant and wants to abort: Not my decision.
Wants to decline treatment under religious reasons: Under the age of majority? Fuck no.
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RE: Christian Views on Parental Responsibility
January 21, 2015 at 3:38 pm
I voted for 18. Am I alone on this?
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RE: Christian Views on Parental Responsibility
January 21, 2015 at 3:39 pm
(January 21, 2015 at 3:38 pm)Blackout Wrote: I voted for 18. Am I alone on this?
Not sure you're gonna find too much support on that one.
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RE: Christian Views on Parental Responsibility
January 21, 2015 at 3:44 pm
(January 21, 2015 at 3:39 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: (January 21, 2015 at 3:38 pm)Blackout Wrote: I voted for 18. Am I alone on this?
Not sure you're gonna find too much support on that one.
I personally wouldn't allow it, but if another atheist wanted to let his child carry on religious beliefs I'm not going to censor it; as long as the beliefs are sincere and not seriously indoctrinated.
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RE: Christian Views on Parental Responsibility
January 21, 2015 at 3:47 pm
(January 21, 2015 at 3:44 pm)Blackout Wrote: (January 21, 2015 at 3:39 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: Not sure you're gonna find too much support on that one.
I personally wouldn't allow it, but if another atheist wanted to let his child carry on religious beliefs I'm not going to censor it; as long as the beliefs are sincere and not seriously indoctrinated.
You would be okay with an atheist friend letting his 11 year old daughter die due to her religious beliefs?
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RE: Christian Views on Parental Responsibility
January 21, 2015 at 3:50 pm
10, 13, and 17. The only one the required though was 17. If the child is old a mature enough, that would be the child's call. If the treatment is painful and the outcome doubtful, then letting the child opt out might be moral if the child is old enough to understand the decision.
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RE: Christian Views on Parental Responsibility
January 21, 2015 at 3:50 pm
(January 21, 2015 at 3:47 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: (January 21, 2015 at 3:44 pm)Blackout Wrote: I personally wouldn't allow it, but if another atheist wanted to let his child carry on religious beliefs I'm not going to censor it; as long as the beliefs are sincere and not seriously indoctrinated.
You would be okay with an atheist friend letting his 11 year old daughter die due to her religious beliefs?
I don't consider it right. But I'm not the parent. Morality isn't exactly objective. It's hard to decide.
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RE: Christian Views on Parental Responsibility
January 21, 2015 at 3:58 pm
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(January 21, 2015 at 3:38 pm)Blackout Wrote: I voted for 18. Am I alone on this?
Yeah maybe. I'm not going to allow a child to decide stop or change treatments for the sake of getting together with the mythical figure she has hallucinated. Time to be the adult and say no.
(January 21, 2015 at 3:47 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: (January 21, 2015 at 3:44 pm)Blackout Wrote: I personally wouldn't allow it, but if another atheist wanted to let his child carry on religious beliefs I'm not going to censor it; as long as the beliefs are sincere and not seriously indoctrinated.
You would be okay with an atheist friend letting his 11 year old daughter die due to her religious beliefs?
Doesn't this discussion bring up the popularly held misconception that there is an "atheist way of doing things" or at least an atheist set of morals? Why would there be any shoulds in any direction on any topic that stem from being an atheist.
My goal here was to collect the personal position of theists and atheists on a few questions based on their own moral sense. Even for the theists who may think there is an objective set of morals which should rule out, I would still want to know what their personal choice would be.
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