Evidence God Exists

[Welsh cake]

I've experienced the presence of God. But like the man said, it's difficult to put into words. A lot of you will say that it was just what I imagined based on my belief. But to live it is to breathe it.

Talk about brainfarts - if you can't even describe what kind of personal experience you had why should anyone take your position even remotely seriously, why should people even humour you at this point?

Basically you're saying you experienced something, good for you, though it may not necessarily be a brush with the supernatural as some could argue it was more probably a bad case of indigestion. At any rate, expecting your audience to accept you've had an encounter with magic man is simply unrealistic and senseless - we've no independent access to what actually happened, therefore we can't acknowledge said claims since you've yet again surprise-fucking-surprise presented only personal testimonies and not a single shred of empirical evidence.

[Entropist]

"One day I played Black Sabbath at 78 speed."

"Oh, and then what happened?"

"I SAW GOD!"

(Cheech and Chong)

[Captain Scarlet]

Maybe if unbelievers would experience what you and I have, they'd be believers.

And what exactly have you "experienced"?

I've experienced the presence of God. But like the man said, it's difficult to put into words. A lot of you will say that it was just what I imagined based on my belief. But to live it is to breathe it.

I was first a Christian, and then an atheist. But it wasn't until I let myself be open to experiencing God that I was able to experience him. Before that I never really did, even as a Christian.

How do you know it was a god? How do you know it was the xtian god (assuming it was)? Why should the creator of the entire universe seek to get your attention?

[downbeatplumb]

I've experienced the presence of God

It was probably constipation. Ex-Lax should help.

Or it couldve been trapped wind.

[Entropist]

Or it couldve been trapped wind.

Hole-ly spirit (pneuma) indeed.

(I seem to recall that was Bertrand Russell's half-joking explanation of the Pythagoreans' aversion to eating beans)

[AngelThMan]

Most believers who become atheists do it as a result of some traumatic disappointment. Something goes horribly wrong in their lives and they lose faith in God.

Others do it because their lifestyles (e.g. sexuality) do not fit in with/is not supported by their particular religions.

And then there are those who were born into religious homes, and went through the motions as children based on their parents' faith, but never really gave God or religion much thought, and therefore were never really open to experiencing God. Driven by certain studies and scientific findings as they get older, they find that the notion of atheism speaks to them.

I also forgot those who became atheists to rebel against strict, faith-based parenting.

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Why is it so difficult to believe that I am an atheist precisely because I was given as much exposure to religion as a normal person and just as much thought (or more, considering I have thoughts on the topic) and rejected the beliefs for the irrational imaginings that they appear to be?

You may have given it thought, but that doesn't mean you ever experienced or allowed yourself to experience God. If you had experienced God, the likelihood is that you wouldn't have become an atheist, unless you went through some sort of hardship or terrible disappointment in your life.

[Oldandeasilyconfused]

[TheDarkestOfAngels]

[Welsh cake]

I also forgot those who became atheists to rebel against strict, faith-based parenting.

But you conveniently ignored all those who realised the beliefs were all a steaming pile of fallacious dogmatic bullshit.

The disappointment we've got in our lives mate is that you fundamentalists can't figure this out for yourself.

[chatpilot]

AngelThMan when you find "evidence that God exists" I would love to see it, so far you haven't shown me any in this entire thread.