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RE: Oklahoma Republican wants to make secular marriage impossible.
January 31, 2015 at 6:03 pm
I didn't say black atheists didn't exist, I said they were rare, meaning that discrimination cases against them would be even rarer, that what I wanted to see evidence of.
However I had a nice chuckle at the irony of the black atheists of America facebook cover photo.
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RE: Oklahoma Republican wants to make secular marriage impossible.
January 31, 2015 at 6:16 pm
(January 31, 2015 at 4:57 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: Please, by all means, point it out. I can count black atheists I've heard of on like three fingers.
Add one more.
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RE: Oklahoma Republican wants to make secular marriage impossible.
January 31, 2015 at 6:32 pm
(January 31, 2015 at 6:03 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: I didn't say black atheists didn't exist, I said they were rare, meaning that discrimination cases against them would be even rarer, that what I wanted to see evidence of.
However I had a nice chuckle at the irony of the black atheists of America facebook cover photo.
Since when is discrimination a numbers game?
You don't realize it but you are part of the problem yourself. You do the same thing Jews and Muslims do. When you point out religion as the cause they make it about race.
Now go read that book, cover to cover. The entire motif of the bible is set up like a gang with a head gang leader(God). This gang leader tells you you are his homeboys and if you defend him you will get rewarded, if you are a member of another gang, you will be defeated.
AND even in the OT, it condones taking the losers in war and turn them in to slaves and use their women as fields to be fertilized. There is no condemnation on the part of God on issues of slavery or rape, other than limits as to what you can do to them. BUT NO outright ban on either.
The reason ALL the holy books of Abraham of all three traditions were written like the were reflected a very feudal past and at that time your life literally depended more on following that tribe because the mortality rate was much higher back then. And the false concept of the success of the rulers were because of a divine hand.
You call yourself black, but you have nothing in common with an African Muslim or an Jamaican Rastafarian or a black Argentinian. And the black atheist here in America certainly have nothing in common with you other than being discriminated for for being black, on top of being atheists.
So basically you are arguing "Black atheists don't matter because they are smaller a group than blacks who do believe".
Congratulations how does it feel to be a bigot while claiming not to be one?
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RE: Oklahoma Republican wants to make secular marriage impossible.
January 31, 2015 at 6:58 pm
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(January 31, 2015 at 6:32 pm)Brian37 Wrote: So basically you are arguing "Black atheists don't matter because they are smaller a group than blacks who do believe".
Congratulations how does it feel to be a bigot while claiming not to be one?
Where did I "basically" imply "Black atheists don't matter because they are smaller a group than blacks who do believe"?
You stated
(January 31, 2015 at 6:32 pm)Brian37 Wrote: So if I point out to you black atheists other blacks discriminate against would that change your POV?
And my reply was "Please, by all means, point it out. I can count black atheists I've heard of on like three fingers." In other words I don't know any black atheists personally, and I defiantly haven't heard of any being discriminated against, the only implications I made were for you to provide the evidence of said black atheists being discriminated against.
Instead of you providing any evidence like I requested, I'm all of the sudden a bigot? You can't be serious.
(January 31, 2015 at 6:32 pm)Brian37 Wrote: You call yourself black, but you have nothing in common with an African Muslim or an Jamaican Rastafarian or a black Argentinian. I don't call myself black, I am black, and i do share a common bond with the people you mentioned, your mistake is thinking our commonality is limited to our doctrine.
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RE: Oklahoma Republican wants to make secular marriage impossible.
January 31, 2015 at 7:22 pm
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(January 31, 2015 at 6:58 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: (January 31, 2015 at 6:32 pm)Brian37 Wrote: So basically you are arguing "Black atheists don't matter because they are smaller a group than blacks who do believe".
Congratulations how does it feel to be a bigot while claiming not to be one?
Where did I "basically" imply "Black atheists don't matter because they are smaller a group than blacks who do believe"?
You stated
(January 31, 2015 at 6:32 pm)Brian37 Wrote: So if I point out to you black atheists other blacks discriminate against would that change your POV?
And my reply was "Please, by all means, point it out. I can count black atheists I've heard of on like three fingers." In other words I don't know any black atheists personally, and I defiantly haven't heard of any being discriminated against, the only implications I made were for you to provide the evidence of said black atheists being discriminated against.
Instead of you providing any evidence like I requested, I'm all of the sudden a bigot? You can't be serious.
(January 31, 2015 at 6:32 pm)Brian37 Wrote: You call yourself black, but you have nothing in common with an African Muslim or an Jamaican Rastafarian or a black Argentinian. I don't call myself black, I am black, and i do share a common bond with the people you mentioned, your mistake is thinking our difference in doctrine is where our commonality ends.
Bonding is part of evolution, everyone likes to group around like minded people. But that does not make your skin tone, your political party or religion or nationality unique to evolution. Our species has always mixed and our powers shift over long periods of time, and our boarders come and go.
Japanese people didn't magically get to that island, they migrated from Asia and the Russian Islands. Native Americans are also not original to the Americas, their ancestors too migrated as well.
Long before humans started any set farming or boarders we existed and we existed in much more similar skin color and facial features during our evolution in Africa where all humans started.
And prior to that our ancestors were other primates.
And atheists don't have a "doctrine". There is no secret atheist handshake. "Atheist" merely means off on one claim. It is not a loyalty oath, it is not a religion, it is not a political party. Atheists are not monochromatic sheep who follow each other merely based on a label.
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RE: Oklahoma Republican wants to make secular marriage impossible.
January 31, 2015 at 7:29 pm
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(January 31, 2015 at 6:58 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: your mistake is thinking our commonality is limited to our doctrine.
It's not, I agree.
It is limited to your skin color and your doctrine combined.
I am wondering if you are the type of black person who attends a multi-racial church or one that is all black.
"What a little moonlight can do." ~ Billie Holiday
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RE: Oklahoma Republican wants to make secular marriage impossible.
January 31, 2015 at 10:14 pm
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A religion used to justify keeping generations of your ancestors in chains, and generations more of virtual serfdom. A religion used as a weapon against your generation by people who think you're just some animal waiting for a chance to commit crimes, people who hope you get shot because of your skin color and will cheer the killer if it happens.
Why on earth would you choose to involve yourself in a system used in this country to minimize you as a human being?
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RE: Oklahoma Republican wants to make secular marriage impossible.
February 2, 2015 at 1:34 pm
I'm not anti-Christian. I'm anti-stupid.
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RE: Oklahoma Republican wants to make secular marriage impossible.
February 3, 2015 at 11:39 pm
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