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Obama's address at Countering Violent Extremism summit
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Obama's address at Countering Violent Extremism summit
February 19, 2015 at 5:57 am (This post was last modified: February 19, 2015 at 6:14 am by mralstoner.)
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RE: Obama's address at Countering Violent Extremism summit
February 19, 2015 at 5:59 am (This post was last modified: February 19, 2015 at 6:00 am by robvalue.)
Or to summarize:

They follow the book. We have to teach them to ignore it like all real muslims do.
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RE: Obama's address at Countering Violent Extremism summit
February 19, 2015 at 7:59 am
MURICA!

Still fighting violent extremism...

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With moderate, peace missiles.

But hey, so long as we're not violent...
"Peace is a lie, there is only passion.
Through passion, I gain strength.
Through strength, I gain power.
Through power, I gain victory.
Through victory, my chains are broken."
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RE: Obama's address at Countering Violent Extremism summit
February 19, 2015 at 10:16 am (This post was last modified: February 19, 2015 at 10:28 am by mralstoner.)
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RE: Obama's address at Countering Violent Extremism summit
February 19, 2015 at 10:51 am (This post was last modified: February 19, 2015 at 10:51 am by Mudhammam.)
It's really frustrating how much Obama will go out of his way not to criticize Islam...

Yet he's responsible for droning more Muslims into the dust than any President.
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RE: Obama's address at Countering Violent Extremism summit
February 19, 2015 at 10:52 am
Sum ergo sum
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RE: Obama's address at Countering Violent Extremism summit
February 19, 2015 at 10:57 am (This post was last modified: February 19, 2015 at 10:59 am by FatAndFaithless.)
I understand the frustration of some folks at Obama's refusal to acknowledge the Islamic foundation of ISIS (I share that frustration), but the Falwell-esque screeching rhetoric coming from many conservative pundits and politicians is just insane. For example, the bright and lovely Ted Cruz calling him an 'apologist for the terrorists' is the type of rhetoric that makes anyone that might moderately agree with you immediately discount your statements. Obama has called ISIS barbaric, inhuman, evil, and a death cult, and regardless of what you think is the right response to their actions (supplying weapons, boots on the ground, training arab states' armies, etc), even implying that the POTUS is somehow 'on their side' or 'trying to justify their actions' is utterly unhelpful and catastrophically stifling to any sort of progress or agreement on this. What's more, any sort of reasonable concurrence I might have with some very far-right people (happens once in a blue moon) is even further strained when they themselves do the same song and dance for which they're condemning Obama when it comes to atrocities undertaken and performed by Christian groups around the world.
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RE: Obama's address at Countering Violent Extremism summit
February 19, 2015 at 11:44 am (This post was last modified: February 19, 2015 at 11:45 am by vorlon13.)
Am I off base here ?

ISIS does not represent religious extremism, they represent religious literalism.
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RE: Obama's address at Countering Violent Extremism summit
February 19, 2015 at 12:08 pm
Seems revolutionaries frequently overreach and become worse than their oppressors no matter the basis of their ideology. People with moderate tempraments don't lead revolutions.
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RE: Obama's address at Countering Violent Extremism summit
February 19, 2015 at 12:10 pm
(February 19, 2015 at 11:44 am)vorlon13 Wrote: Am I off base here ?

ISIS does not represent religious extremism, they represent religious literalism.
Not quite: they represent a specific, fundamentalist interpretation of Islam based around the 'Prophetic Methodology' (i.e. they behave like Muhammad), the restoration of the Caliphate, and fulfilling Qur'anic prophecies of armageddon.
Sum ergo sum
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