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Christians, Prove Your God Is Good
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Once again, I wonder where people like GC and Ninja think the 'superbugs' (a.k.a., antibiotic-resistant bacteria) that are currently killing people in US hospitals come from, and why they're different than larger organisms.
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 (February 23, 2015 at 5:37 pm)The Reality Salesman Wrote: Definitely a myth. Plus, if Americans came from Brittish people, then why are there still Brittish people? Well, I'm American and my forebears were Irish, German, and Norwegian so . . . Special Creation! Suck it, evolutionists, YECs, and Brits (a little something for my Irish ancestors).  RE: Christians, Prove Your God Is Good
February 23, 2015 at 5:43 pm
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(February 23, 2015 at 5:41 pm)KevinM1 Wrote: Once again, I wonder where people like GC and Ninja think the 'superbugs' (a.k.a., antibiotic-resistant bacteria) that are currently killing people in US hospitals come from, and why they're different than larger organisms. The devil, obviously. The fall and all that.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
The other problem, beyond the complete irrelevance of the term, is that creationists never see fit to actually define what a "kind" is. They use it as a challenge but it's not a word that anyone well versed in science will be familiar with, mostly because it's not a real word, and after that point the conversation is filled with theistic evasiveness, which they wouldn't need to do if they actually had a definition, or intended to give one.
The best we can hope to get is that bible passage about animals reproducing after their own kind, but that's either completely unhelpful if the theist insists that kind is not the same as species, or perfectly within the reach of evolution if it is just the same as species, as the passage seems to indicate, because we have seen one species (kind) bringing forth another species (kind.) So in the best case scenario, the theist is either being profoundly vague, or wrong.  RE: Christians, Prove Your God Is Good
February 23, 2015 at 6:34 pm
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 (February 23, 2015 at 5:41 pm)KevinM1 Wrote: Once again, I wonder where people like GC and Ninja think the 'superbugs' (a.k.a., antibiotic-resistant bacteria) that are currently killing people in US hospitals come from, and why they're different than larger organisms. God has created them out of nothing as punishment for essentially declaring gay marriage bans unconstitutional.  (February 23, 2015 at 5:43 pm)Crossless1 Wrote:Prove it! I've never seen a real Irish person transform instantly into an American. The accent would be too hard to hide. So, it's your turn to suck it again!(February 23, 2015 at 5:37 pm)The Reality Salesman Wrote: Definitely a myth. Plus, if Americans came from Brittish people, then why are there still Brittish people?  RE: Christians, Prove Your God Is Good
February 23, 2015 at 7:30 pm
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(February 23, 2015 at 2:43 pm)Godschild Wrote: Nope, what I've seen on this forum is people who do not believe in God yet desire to argue against God always place human emotion and values on Him. The bible clearly attributes humanity to god. I am a jealous god seems rather human.. I am a vengeful god seems rather ungodlike as well. The god character was created and molded after a very inflated sense of man's self.
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(February 23, 2015 at 5:43 pm)Stimbo Wrote:(February 23, 2015 at 5:41 pm)KevinM1 Wrote: Once again, I wonder where people like GC and Ninja think the 'superbugs' (a.k.a., antibiotic-resistant bacteria) that are currently killing people in US hospitals come from, and why they're different than larger organisms. Pfft, "the fall". If it really was a product of the fall, where's the telltale soup spoon? It can't be a real fall-related issue without a soup spoon! Oh, what's that? I can't just invent new components of established ideas by fiat and then claim that the established idea can't be real because of the new component I've just defined into existence isn't present in it? Oh, right. I was thinking like a creationist, for a moment there. 
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February 23, 2015 at 7:52 pm
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(February 23, 2015 at 6:34 pm)Ignorant Wrote: Goodness is the aspect under which we judge things to be more or less able to fulfill our human desires or appetites. As such, calling something good implicitly includes the understanding "good FOR". For example, we eat food because we judge that it will satisfy hunger (i.e. it is good for satisfying hunger), but we satisfy hunger FOR the sake of nourishment and growth (which are both sought under the aspect of goodness). The appetite/desire is "directed" toward fulfilling our humanity. Another example is more abstract: We punish criminals because it satisfies a desire for justice, and we satisfy the desire of justice FOR the sake of social order (which is sought under the aspect of goodness). All of these goods are sought in an order and for the sake of different goods judged subjectively by individuals for one common reason: happiness/human fulfillment. Goodness is the aspect by which we arrange and order our actions for the sake of happiness which is human satisfaction or fulfillment. This sounds very similar to what I saw in the Catholic Encyclopedia. How do you define "happiness/human fulfillment"? If we can't define those terms then we haven't defined "good". (February 23, 2015 at 6:34 pm)Ignorant Wrote: Before this post, I haven't argued anything, so I don't know why you are trying to guess what I am arguing. Well, I was trying to encourage you to offer a definition. "Is this what you mean?", "Is that what you mean?", ... Sorry if you misunderstood my intentions as hostile. |
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