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Christians, Prove Your God Is Good
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 RE: Christians, Prove Your God Is Good
March 10, 2015 at 5:36 pm
(This post was last modified: March 10, 2015 at 5:36 pm by abaris.)
(March 10, 2015 at 5:26 pm)MilesAbbott81 Wrote: You could say that, but it is actually human beings who rape and murder. What God does is use that evil to administer justice. As our Creator, it is His right to do so. An honest question: Do you even realize that this is something to barf over? Some god you have there, some god... ![[Image: Bumper+Sticker+-+Asheville+-+Praise+Dog3.JPG]](https://images.weserv.nl/?url=1.bp.blogspot.com%2F-d-3rfdI7nG0%2FTerwtFyFXoI%2FAAAAAAAACak%2F7kFSmHeVrng%2Fs320%2FBumper%2BSticker%2B-%2BAsheville%2B-%2BPraise%2BDog3.JPG)
 (March 10, 2015 at 5:29 pm)MilesAbbott81 Wrote: What is it you are failing to understand here? God repays evil with evil, and the severity of the punishment is in direct proportion to the crime. How is that not justice? You realize that blows free will out of the water? If God could do that, he could also stop the evil in the first place. Quote:God is not a masochist - He detests these things as well. Why do you think they are forbidden by His commandments? But if they happen, he uses them to administer punishment/justice. That is just how it works. How about someone who murders a child? The child was evil so they deserved God "administering" justice? I don't think you've thought this through.  (March 10, 2015 at 5:29 pm)MilesAbbott81 Wrote: What is it you are failing to understand here? God repays evil with evil, and the severity of the punishment is in direct proportion to the crime. How is that not justice? What I'm failing to understand is how you claim on one hand that rape and murder are justice from God but on the other hand you claim to detest these actions. Why do you detest your all-knowing god's justice? Why would an all-powerful God use methods he detests to administer judgement? The most burning question, though, is, can we expect any internal consistency from you?
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
 (March 10, 2015 at 1:31 pm)MilesAbbott81 Wrote: Well an internet search can turn up just about anything, so that's not really proof. How many theists (Christians would probably be more accurate here) have you personally witnessed acting like that? Back-peddle much?!? Wow!
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 (March 10, 2015 at 5:31 pm)rexbeccarox Wrote: I volunteer on a sexual assault response team. One of my colleagues was called to the forensic hospital one night to advocate for a thirteen-year-old rape victim. When my colleague got there, she noticed the front of her blouse was bleeding. The little girl told her the rapist (a family friend) bit her nipple off. Again, I tell you children are punished for the sins of the fathers to the third and fourth generation. It's a terrible thing, yes. The wrath of God is terrible indeed. RE: Christians, Prove Your God Is Good
March 10, 2015 at 5:54 pm
(This post was last modified: March 10, 2015 at 5:54 pm by Ravenshire.)
(March 10, 2015 at 3:25 pm)MilesAbbott81 Wrote: The second time, there was something I thought I had to do related to my repentance (it isn't about just feeling remorse; one must provide restitution wherever possible), and He simply said "You will not do that" (it was a command, not a prediction). And was that recently after having prayed about the restitution owed?  I'm sure whoever you owed it to is perfectly ok with the voices in your head giving you a pass. (March 10, 2015 at 3:38 pm)rexbeccarox Wrote: So... God commanded you? I thought he was all about free will... Except when he's not. Just like his son, he's kinda hard to nail down. 
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 (March 10, 2015 at 5:53 pm)MilesAbbott81 Wrote: The wrath of God is terrible indeed. The wrath of god is terrible and you do not think that makes him a terrible god. You do not reason very well, do you?
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 (March 10, 2015 at 4:21 pm)MilesAbbott81 Wrote: Yes, those are all God's "things," though if we are to believe what the Bible says, He takes no pleasure in them I do find it odd though, that an omniscient, omnipotent gawd can't figure out a better way to get to the same result.
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“The word of the Lord came to me again: ‘What do you mean by repeating this proverb concerning the land of Israel, “The fathers have eaten sour grapes, and the children’s teeth are set on edge”? As I live, says the Lord God, this proverb shall no more be used by you in Israel…. The son shall not suffer for the iniquity of the father, nor the father suffer for the iniquity of the son; the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon himself, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon himself.’” (Ezekiel 18:1-3, 20)
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