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RE: The Jesus Freaks Will Hate This
March 10, 2015 at 8:33 pm
The universe did come from a single point of possible energy and matter and we don't know where that point came from.
Krauss is saying maybe that point came from nothing and if it did we are possibly one of many possible universes.
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RE: The Jesus Freaks Will Hate This
March 10, 2015 at 8:55 pm
(March 10, 2015 at 2:13 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: I'm going to assume that by submitting those three scenarios, you consider them just as likely.
Your sort of stupid saddens me.
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RE: The Jesus Freaks Will Hate This
March 10, 2015 at 9:00 pm
(March 10, 2015 at 8:55 pm)Parkers Tan Wrote: Your sort of stupid saddens me.
Sort of saps your faith in humanity, no?
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RE: The Jesus Freaks Will Hate This
March 10, 2015 at 9:07 pm
(March 10, 2015 at 9:00 pm)SteelCurtain Wrote: (March 10, 2015 at 8:55 pm)Parkers Tan Wrote: Your sort of stupid saddens me.
Sort of saps your faith in humanity, no?
One shouldn't simply have faith in Humanity anymore.
Just less disappointment at this point.
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RE: The Jesus Freaks Will Hate This
March 10, 2015 at 9:17 pm
I remain, as ever, an optimist.
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RE: The Jesus Freaks Will Hate This
March 10, 2015 at 9:29 pm
(March 10, 2015 at 9:17 pm)SteelCurtain Wrote: I remain, as ever, an optimist.
I remain a pessimistic realist.
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RE: The Jesus Freaks Will Hate This
March 10, 2015 at 9:36 pm
(March 10, 2015 at 9:29 pm)Sionnach Wrote: (March 10, 2015 at 9:17 pm)SteelCurtain Wrote: I remain, as ever, an optimist.
I remain a pessimistic realist.
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RE: The Jesus Freaks Will Hate This
March 10, 2015 at 11:19 pm
(This post was last modified: March 10, 2015 at 11:30 pm by Cinjin.)
(March 10, 2015 at 10:22 am)Huggy74 Wrote: (March 10, 2015 at 10:16 am)Cinjin Wrote: You are a special kind of deceiver aren't you. A government is not one thing or the other. Not every politician in America believes in your phony god. Likewise, not every politician in Denmark is an atheist. Nowhere does it say in the US constitution that our government is Christian, and yet we often usher Jehovah into our political, educational and social arenas touting god and government all the way. To universally say that any government is or is not religious is erroneous and exceptionally dishonest on your part. Does religion exist in Denmark? Of course it does - and that means it exists in some small part in their government as well. That doesn't mean that Denmark is not predominately atheistic across the board - BECAUSE IT IS!
You are twisting and contorting information to make an argument you do not have. You're a real piece of work. The word liar comes to mind.
But yet 78% of Danes are members of the church.
http://www.trincoll.edu/depts/csrpl/RINV...enmark.htm
Quote:• According to the constitution (§ 54), the Lutheran-evangelic Church is the Danish People’s Church (“Folkekirke”), and is, as such, supported by the State, which means that the Lutheran-evangelic religion and its institutions and churches are given a favored place among religions in Danish society. All tax-paying citizens, regardless of their personal religious beliefs, thus contribute to the priests and bishops of the “Folkekirke.”
Now show me in the US constitution where any church or religion is favored...
lmao. You are such a cherrypicking little liar. There's a big fucking difference between "being Christian" and practicing Christianity. The following is a little exerpt from the article that YOU supplied as your evidence for Denmark being a Christian nation:
The Article you touted as evidence Wrote:Not only have these secular values become more clearly articulated than before, they are nowadays also launched, at times aggressively, as values that express the very essence of contemporary Danishness.
In Denmark, as in other European countries, the success of what might perhaps be called “traditional secularism,” advocating the independence of politics, education, science, and social affairs from religious dogmas and institutions, has served as a vehicle for emancipation and democracy.
All that your article made clear was that Denmark is Lutheran in name alone and that Danes are thriving because of secularism rather than the dogma of your horse shit religion. That friend of mine that I mentioned said that a small amount of Danes go to church 4 or 5 times a year as a matter of tradition and simple habit. Nothing more. They're "christian" the way most white Americans are "Irish" or "Dutch" ... in name only. Many churches are shut down or turned into community centers or taverns.
Article Wrote:In Denmark only 5% of Lutherans attend church.
Consider yourself served.
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RE: The Jesus Freaks Will Hate This
March 10, 2015 at 11:52 pm
(March 10, 2015 at 9:29 pm)Sionnach Wrote: (March 10, 2015 at 9:17 pm)SteelCurtain Wrote: I remain, as ever, an optimist. I remain a pessimistic realist. Pessimists are never disappointed.
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RE: The Jesus Freaks Will Hate This
March 10, 2015 at 11:55 pm
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(March 10, 2015 at 10:04 am)Huggy74 Wrote: Are you saying Denmark's government is secular? that all I want to know?
No offense Huggies, but that's bullshit. Your question has variously been "Is Denmark a secular country?" and "Does Denmark have a secular government?" These are two entirely different questions that you've conflated into an intellectually dishonest pissing contest that even members of Liar's Anonymous have stared slack jawed at.
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