Easy arguments against the Bible, and religion as a whole

[Minimalist]

they're a religion for what they do believe.

Kindly tell me what I believe.

[Erinome]

I believe that chipan is full of shit.

Does that mean my religion is chipanisfullofshitianity?

[Blam!]

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alright, these definitions of slavery do not fit what we thought of slavery in the 1800's. this speaks of people selling themselves for a temporary amount of time and it always streases not to treat them with rigor. this is no worse than an endentured survent was in the 1600's. really, the only time slaves in this country were mistreated was when plantations became popular and they treated them like crap. when slaves first came to america they were treated as family (often too much like family). they were in a household, wore nice clothes, fed well but even in the bible slaves weren't like that they were in that life by choice not for their entire lives.

your passage on rape is not talking about reward for rape, it's talking about punishment. if the woman were betrothed, then the punishment would be death but since she's not betrothed he is forced to marry her and pay her family 50 shekels of silver. it's a shameful act and i'm sure no one would think highly of the couple if that's how they got together. one thing you must understand is that women didn't really have a choice when it comes to picking their husbands. the parrents had the choice in the matter b/c everyone was betrothed.

most of these other passages about women are merely speaking of the laws of the land, not laws of God himself. here i have changed the perspective of what slavery really was, and refuted the fact that the bible condones rape. also, yes parents were allowed to sell their daughters as slaves, but that was the law of the land and they would have to get married to have sex.

it's hard to understand many things in the bible if you don't understand the way of life of the culture of the time.

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Spoken as a Christian apologist. Nevertheless, the scriptures are barbarism and its stone age law has no place in 21th century society.

it's hard to understand many things in the bible if you don't understand the way of life of the culture of the time.

What the fucking is that supposed to mean? Way of life of the culture of the time? This is 21th century for goodness' sake! What world are you living in, anyway?

atheism isn't a religion for what they don't believe, they're a religion for what they do believe. you can say you have no religion if you say i don't care how the universe came to be and i don't care if there's a god or not. if you say "there is no god" then that's taking a religion. and no, atheists are not religious b/c they have no religous practices. religous refers to one's practices to their religion and religion is what refers to one's personal belief of important questions of life. for atheism, they say we have no higher porpose to any higher being b/c they do not exist. that is their belief, that our physical world is all there is and a human soul is simply a figment of our imagination. there is no way to prove it but they believe it reguardless. they have faith that is the truth.

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You don't know what you are talking about. The lack of belief in deity is entirely based on reason, logic and critical thinking, not faith. The definition of belief does not imply religion - you will need anything like deity, spirituality and supernatural to complete the context.

Here's juicy quote of Stephen F Roberts.

“I contend we are both atheists, I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.” —Stephen F Roberts

[The Grand Nudger]

no, there is no place in the bible where it condones slavery. in fact God saves his people from slavery and if he condoned it he would not feel the need to do this.

While the majority of your post is the usual apologetic trash, I liked this one. It was window into your mind. Hmn, why would god save his people from slavery. Perhaps because he's their tribal god, because they are a people with "god on their side". Not like the rest of those hopelessly lost bastards out there. Ethnocentrism written onto the fabric of the cosmos. Why did god save those people from slavery instead of all people? Perhaps because they wrote the story, and that's what it is, as the narrative you're referencing is a fictional one.

You're doing cartwheels now trying to define what atheism is, or what atheists "believe" so that you'll have something to say about atheism. You're doing this because you actually have nothing to say, and the situation is identical with regards to god. You have no idea what you're talking about. You have a need to feel special, superior. You know science, you know scriptures, you know all about atheism. If only you hadn't given me every reason to "believe" the opposite. There you go, now you can rant and rave about something I actually believe, rather than inventing beliefs for me.

[Oldandeasilyconfused]

Nevertheless, the scriptures are barbarism and its stone age law has no place in 21th century society.

Now,now,be fair. The Torah comes to us from an illiterate tribe of BRONZE AGE goat herders.

[Minimalist]

And the torah is a pile of shit, too.

[kılıç_mehmet]

Here is the first one:

Evolution is now (hopefully) fact for anyone who thinks rationally.
The Old Testament (used both in Judaism and Christianity, dunno for Islam) claims the story of Adam and Eve is true

If Evolution is right, Adam and Eve never existed. Hence, the Bible claimed something that is not true

Since one thing in the Bible is wrong, the Bible as a holy book that speaks the word of God is not acceptable, everything it says can be questioned, and the burden of proof is therefore on the bible-believers.

I know, this argument is shaky at best, but it is pretty simple to explain, does not require philosophical interrogation and rarely leads to the loop argument of "i believe because i believe".

Well, good, but why would you really need an argument?
I don't know why some people have a dick measuring contest with the guys who show the banana as a proof of god.
IT's as retarded.

[Blam!]

Nevertheless, the scriptures are barbarism and its stone age law has no place in 21th century society.

Now,now,be fair. The Torah comes to us from an illiterate tribe of BRONZE AGE goat herders.

Ah.. It's Bronze Age, is it? Thanks for correct my mistake.

[chi pan]

ok let me clarify on most of what it said. yes, there was slavery in the bible and yes it was allowed but very restricted like people selling themselves. yes i did talk about slavery in america and i wasn't sugar coating i'm just saying it got a lot worse as time went along. it wasn't that bad when it started compared to when plantations started to rise but it was still worse than any other slavery that has occured b/c it dehumanized their race. the slavery in the bible is no worse than being an endentured survant. your rape part was refuted already as it's a punishment not an encouragment and no we don't pick and choose what laws to follow. they apply but not to the extent of the commandment. when jesus came he brought us the doctrine of forgiveness so just b/c someone has an affair doesn't mean they should be stoned to death. some cleanlyness laws are replaced with modern hygene but all the commandments apply.

"Does that mean my religion is chipanisfullofshitianity?"

you obviously didn't read what i said. i didn't say just what you believe. if you want to mock me at least get my words right

"What the fucking is that supposed to mean? Way of life of the culture of the time? This is 21th century for goodness' sake! What world are you living in, anyway?"

well you took the slavery scripture out of context so that could make your understanding of it and you can't equate american slavery to what happened back then they were very different.

"You don't know what you are talking about. The lack of belief in deity is entirely based on reason, logic and critical thinking, not faith. The definition of belief does not imply religion - you will need anything like deity, spirituality and supernatural to complete the context."

you obviously don't understand what i'm saying. the very first thing i said is it's what they do believe. athiests believe there is no god and the physical world is all there is. that means they believe the only things that exist are matter, energy, and the space time continuum. they don't believe in nothing, they believe in only what's physical and believe there is nothing spiritual. non religious, which i've already explained, would to say they aren't sure if there is a god or not or to just not care.

"Why did god save those people from slavery instead of all people? Perhaps because they wrote the story, and that's what it is, as the narrative you're referencing is a fictional one. "

i don't care if you believe it or not even historians achknowlege that it's true. they even have entire history channel episodes trying to find rational explinations to what happened in these bible stories. you can believe they were made up, that the cival war didn't happen or whatever you want but i don't need to defend these. historians already know about them.

"You're doing cartwheels now trying to define what atheism is, or what atheists "believe" so that you'll have something to say about atheism. You're doing this because you actually have nothing to say, and the situation is identical with regards to god. You have no idea what you're talking about."

nope i'm actually talking about athiesm being a religion b/c blam brought it up.

i"You know science, you know scriptures, you know all about atheism. If only you hadn't given me every reason to "believe" the opposite. There you go, now you can rant and rave about something I actually believe, rather than inventing beliefs for me."

i haven't done anything to your beliefs your mind was already closed long before i said a word. i'm not inventing beliefs, i went by it's definition, nothing more but you fail to read what i post along with others.

[The Grand Nudger]

Slavery has always been slavery. Your kindler, gentler slavery™ is just more apologetic bullshit. For surely, the man is his money.