(March 18, 2015 at 11:56 pm)Jenny A Wrote: I hope there's someone who knows the answer to the question and that while you might love her, you don't think she's god.Shit no! She's the one screaming god. If she's not talking about me then there's some invisible son of a bitch getting credit without putting in some ass rpm.
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Must We Know Everything?
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(March 18, 2015 at 10:59 pm)Parkers Tan Wrote: The ability to say "I don't know" is the mark of an adult. Making peace with the limits of one's knowledge teaches humility better than any Bible verse I've ever read. Saying "I don't know" also marks one as knowing what one still needs to find out. It therefore confers the real possibility of rectifying "I don't know", a possibility which is forever denied those who thinks "God did it" is an substitute for knowing. (March 19, 2015 at 12:32 am)Chuck Wrote: Saying "I don't know" also marks one as knowing what one still needs to find out. It therefore confers the real possibility of rectifying "I don't know", a possibility which is forever denied those who thinks "God did it" is an substitute for knowing. Exactly.
If there is a god, I want to believe that there is a god. If there is not a god, I want to believe that there is no god.
Yeah, but it's tough to have fallen in love with the wrong theory when the right one comes along.
RE: Must We Know Everything?
March 19, 2015 at 2:02 am
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I think due to our limited perspective and the fact that we depend on concepts alone we can only grasp a trivial amount of knowledge in comparison to a compete account of the depth and breadth of reality in and around us. The lengths to which "ultimate truths" can be put into words and ideas leads me to suspect that we largely and contentedly live in a fiction arranged by our biology and traditions.
He who loves God cannot endeavour that God should love him in return - Baruch Spinoza
RE: Must We Know Everything?
March 19, 2015 at 3:57 am
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(March 18, 2015 at 11:49 pm)Cato Wrote: I don't know what the skin between my balls and asshole tastes like. I also don't know what god tastes like. Therefore, god is the skin between my balls and asshole. Now you gotta convince people to worship it. Get down on their knees and 'pray'. OP, My partner is a microbiologist and even she comes up with 'I dont know' to a lot of her own research. It's the scientific method, working out what you don't know, working out how you might get to know about it, and testing repeatedly till you do or you know you currently can't. I know you already obviously know this, but it's still disheartening to see so many people come across a conclusion and jump on it as the only conclusion, and worse, dismiss alternatives when presented out of hand simply because it's not the same conclusion. Love atheistforums.org? Consider becoming a patreon and helping towards our server costs.
I'm quite comfortable with accepting that I won't know certain things within my lifetime. Though not knowing certain things makes me kind of sad sometimes. And they have less to do with the universe and it's origin and more with history or the understanding of animals. I'm always amazed what scientists fid out these days about the cognitive capabilities of our fellow creatures.
RE: Must We Know Everything?
March 19, 2015 at 7:37 am
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I can't personally understand what it's like to crave knowledge of absolutely everything. I am naturally curious, and want to find out as much as I can, but I care about whether I'm learning true things or bullshit. I'd rather know a few things and get them right than pretend I know everything and be wrong about most of it.
It seems human brains are naturally super curious, but do not always have the critical thinking skills to hold that curiosity in check. Feel free to send me a private message.
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