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The Reasons why "Just Following Jesus" Doesn't work
RE: The Reasons why "Just Following Jesus" Doesn't work
(October 5, 2015 at 11:15 am)EvidenceVersusFaith Wrote: 9) Because he's a paranoid homophobe and he tells you to "Keep your dirty heathen eyes to yourself, queer."

8)


How will we know, when the morning comes, we are still human? - 2D

Don't worry, my friend.  If this be the end, then so shall it be.
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RE: The Reasons why "Just Following Jesus" Doesn't work
(October 5, 2015 at 12:09 pm)TheRocketSurgeon Wrote:
(October 5, 2015 at 11:21 am)Rekeisha Wrote: You can only do science if there is uniformity. So why is there uniformity?

You mean why are there laws of physics? 

Well because of a magic wizard who made the laws of physics, of course.

And having created the cosmos with its physical laws, the wizard got busy with the really important stuff: foreskins, dietary rules, schematics for a temple he knew would be destroyed, and making plot notes on a strange, arbitrary, hard-to-believe salvation scheme he thought would be fun to foist on certain animals in his creation with rewards for the dullards who buy it and punishment for those who don't.

Then he invented stand-up comedy.
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RE: The Reasons why "Just Following Jesus" Doesn't work
Abusive Jesus.

7) because he's abusive.
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RE: The Reasons why "Just Following Jesus" Doesn't work
(October 5, 2015 at 11:18 am)Rekeisha Wrote: God doesn't make you sin. You can't blame your faults on Him. If I tell my child not to do a thing, and I make him aware of the consequences, if he does it it is his fault for disobeying me.

Yeah, and if you told your child that he/she could have slaves and you told your child that they could beat them as long as they didn't die within a day or two, then who would be the immoral one? It would be you! Just because you give someone commands with consequences doesn't mean that you are doing something moral.
Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.' -Isaac Asimov-
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RE: The Reasons why "Just Following Jesus" Doesn't work
(October 5, 2015 at 12:46 pm)Salacious B. Crumb Wrote:
(October 5, 2015 at 11:18 am)Rekeisha Wrote: God doesn't make you sin. You can't blame your faults on Him. If I tell my child not to do a thing, and I make him aware of the consequences, if he does it it is his fault for disobeying me.

Yeah, and if you told your child that he/she could have slaves and you told your child that they could beat them as long as they didn't die within a day or two, then who would be the immoral one? It would be you! Just because you give someone commands with consequences doesn't mean that you are doing something moral.

Christians are inherently authoritarians, and their so-called morality, in the end, comes down to "might makes right" and "obey without question".  Of course, they won't acknowledge that they are authoritarians or that they subscribe to "might makes right" because they wipe their asses with the Hebrew Bible whenever it suits them and because of the kinder, gentler moral commandments they like to focus on (golden rule, etc.) -- in addition to the fact that the dictator they bow down to is not mortal (or even something they can demonstrate exists).
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RE: The Reasons why "Just Following Jesus" Doesn't work
(October 5, 2015 at 1:10 pm)Crossless1 Wrote:
(October 5, 2015 at 12:46 pm)Salacious B. Crumb Wrote: Yeah, and if you told your child that he/she could have slaves and you told your child that they could beat them as long as they didn't die within a day or two, then who would be the immoral one? It would be you! Just because you give someone commands with consequences doesn't mean that you are doing something moral.

Christians are inherently authoritarians, and their so-called morality, in the end, comes down to "might makes right" and "obey without question".  Of course, they won't acknowledge that they are authoritarians or that they subscribe to "might makes right" because they wipe their asses with the Hebrew Bible whenever it suits them and because of the kinder, gentler moral commandments they like to focus on (golden rule, etc.) -- in addition to the fact that the dictator they bow down to is not mortal (or even something they can demonstrate exists).

I agree, very dishonest indeed.

Many still do defend this evil god, so why don't they mimic him? Maybe because they think it is immoral (and dishonestly defend god, while knowing that god knows they are dishonestly defending him).. Probably. They can choose to be a cunt like the father, the son.. who is better but still a cunt, or the mystery holy ghost. Not great options for a role model, let alone, someone to worship.
Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.' -Isaac Asimov-
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RE: The Reasons why "Just Following Jesus" Doesn't work
(October 5, 2015 at 11:19 am)Rekeisha Wrote:
(October 4, 2015 at 2:04 pm)Minimalist Wrote: History.  Which has nothing to do with your fucking bible.

could you bring some examples

Would you read them if I did?
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RE: The Reasons why "Just Following Jesus" Doesn't work
(October 4, 2015 at 1:52 pm)Rekeisha Wrote:
(October 3, 2015 at 4:17 pm)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: The Bible says that people will judge angels so why wouldn't they also judge god, who made angels?  If I judge an angel as being bad then I'm also judging God for being evil because he allowed the angel's bad behavior.  And God has a lot of evil angels so God himself is evil.

God's ways are higher than ours. His thoughts are higer than ours. Those who are His children by adobtion through the blood of christ are allowed to judge angels because he gives them authority. So not all humans will judge angels and if anyone has any authority it is given to them by God. He has not given anyone the authority to judge Him.
When Jesus got busted the authorities had a trial and he was found guilty and executed.  So it sure seems like people can judge him whenever they want to and crucify him as well.
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RE: The Reasons why "Just Following Jesus" Doesn't work
(October 5, 2015 at 11:40 am)Thena323 Wrote:
(October 5, 2015 at 11:18 am)Rekeisha Wrote: God doesn't make you sin. 

But, according to you (and your God) that we're born with a dirty, wicked, disgustingly sinful nature fresh from the womb. 
So, there's that to consider.

in the beginning God created everything good and when he created man it was very good. Only when Adam and eve sinned did we inherent a sin nature from our parents.
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RE: The Reasons why "Just Following Jesus" Doesn't work
(October 5, 2015 at 11:46 am)Evie Wrote: It's because 'we' 'sinned' against 'Him' because he put 'Satan' disguised as a 'talking snake' to tempt us because he's a non-existent 'T.W.A.T'.

God does not tempt man. He didn't lay a trap so that Adam and eve would sin. He gave them a choice and they chose wrong even when they were warned.
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