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Ill pretend to be a religious person
March 24, 2010 at 6:23 pm
Hello all, i am relatively new to this forum and im quite enjoying it. I am also an unconditional Atheist
But i would like to show that reasoning with religious people is impossible since they have had 2000 years to perfect their defenses against logic.
So what you can do is ask any question relative to the christian faith and i will answer with christian-based arguments that will, in the end, prove to be impossible to deny. The reason i am doing this is because i have been in plenty of debates on religion and never managed to actually win one since it always ended up in a circular argument of faith, and i would like to know how others might use logic to actually win such an argument
hopefully this idea will get your attention 
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RE: Ill pretend to be a religious person
March 24, 2010 at 6:36 pm
Okay. I'll play.
Why can't you stupid fuckers understand that your precious gospels contradict themselves on when your jesus was born. He cannot have been born both before 4 BC and after 6 AD.
How do the godly explain that?
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RE: Ill pretend to be a religious person
March 24, 2010 at 6:38 pm
(This post was last modified: March 24, 2010 at 6:39 pm by fr0d0.)
No they all know already that there are no rational refutations of Christianity 
And what's an "unconditional Atheist"?
<edit> excepting Min ...he just loves banging his head against the wall 
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RE: Ill pretend to be a religious person
March 24, 2010 at 6:48 pm
Mmm....ok I'll play.
Got any evidence for your claims Mr. Christian?
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence - Carl Sagan
Mankind's intelligence walks hand in hand with it's stupidity.
Being an atheist says nothing about your overall intelligence, it just means you don't believe in god. Atheists can be as bright as any scientist and as stupid as any creationist.
You never really know just how stupid someone is, until you've argued with them.
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RE: Ill pretend to be a religious person
March 24, 2010 at 7:05 pm
Another atheist that claims reason and logic are incompatible wit religion. I think I'll not play along with this on, Ace and Min love this stuff.
"There ought to be a term that would designate those who actually follow the teachings of Jesus, since the word 'Christian' has been largely divorced from those teachings, and so polluted by fundamentalists that it has come to connote their polar opposite: intolerance, vindictive hatred, and bigotry." -- Philip Stater, Huffington Post
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RE: Ill pretend to be a religious person
March 24, 2010 at 7:14 pm
(This post was last modified: March 24, 2010 at 7:18 pm by Rwandrall.)
(March 24, 2010 at 6:36 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Okay. I'll play.
Why can't you stupid fuckers understand that your precious gospels contradict themselves on when your jesus was born. He cannot have been born both before 4 BC and after 6 AD.
How do the godly explain that?
The date Jesus was born is not important...accounts do differ but what is necessary to know is something small like a date will not change the message of the Christ, which is eternal !
(March 24, 2010 at 6:48 pm)Ace Wrote: Mmm....ok I'll play.
Got any evidence for your claims Mr. Christian?
my evidence is the whole universe ! why is there such a thing as life ? why is there only one species that has intelligence and understanding of God, us humans ? Also, the fact that so many people believe in a God is proof that he is real: think about it, religion has been here for thousands of years, do you really think those BILLIONS of people can be wrong ?
(March 24, 2010 at 7:05 pm)tackattack Wrote: Another atheist that claims reason and logic are incompatible wit religion. I think I'll not play along with this on, Ace and Min love this stuff.
Religion relies on faith, and faith is irrational and illogical. So in this aspect, religion is incompatible with religion.
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RE: Ill pretend to be a religious person
March 24, 2010 at 7:28 pm
Quote:The date Jesus was born is not important...accounts do differ but what is necessary to know is something small like a date will not change the message of the Christ, which is eternal !
I agree it is not important because it never happened. But if you can't get your own story straight in the only two sources which tell the story why should I believe anything you say?
Inerrancy cannot be errant.
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RE: Ill pretend to be a religious person
March 24, 2010 at 7:29 pm
(March 24, 2010 at 7:14 pm)Rwandrall Wrote: my evidence is the whole universe ! why is there such a thing as life ? why is there only one species that has intelligence and understanding of God, us humans ? Also, the fact that so many people believe in a God is proof that he is real: think about it, religion has been here for thousands of years, do you really think those BILLIONS of people can be wrong ?
Oooh I love this part. This is kinda like frodo giving us target practice.
Ok, the universe cannot prove the existance of an intelligent being. Since it is capable of coming into existance all on it's own. Kinda like how a planet forms on it's own. We aren't the only species with high intelligance and our so called "understanding of god" is nothing more than pure imgaination that is fueled by lack of knowledge and understanding. Also, reality does not favour the masses. For a lie is a lie no matter how many believe it. Many billions believing in the same thing can still all be wrong about it. Religion has been around for thousands of years and knows very little about reality. As history will show.
Well that twas fun. 
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Mankind's intelligence walks hand in hand with it's stupidity.
Being an atheist says nothing about your overall intelligence, it just means you don't believe in god. Atheists can be as bright as any scientist and as stupid as any creationist.
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RE: Ill pretend to be a religious person
March 24, 2010 at 7:32 pm
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Meh ...pathetic ..you fail at logic you useless Christian
Faith relies on trust in and intellectual assent of, knowledge of God. Evidence would be the wrong subject. The gospels aren't contradictory.
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RE: Ill pretend to be a religious person
March 24, 2010 at 7:38 pm
(This post was last modified: March 24, 2010 at 7:39 pm by tackattack.)
might need to work on your definition of faith and I'm sure you didn't mean religion is incompatible with religion.. 
"There ought to be a term that would designate those who actually follow the teachings of Jesus, since the word 'Christian' has been largely divorced from those teachings, and so polluted by fundamentalists that it has come to connote their polar opposite: intolerance, vindictive hatred, and bigotry." -- Philip Stater, Huffington Post
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