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RE: God Just Changed His Mind (from Evil to Good)
April 3, 2015 at 9:49 am
(April 3, 2015 at 9:07 am)Norman Humann Wrote: (April 3, 2015 at 8:58 am)Riketto Wrote: Nope.
Would you like if someone go around saying that you said this or that.
Something that you in fact never said.
That is the reason why i say that is important to mention who allege
saying this or that about somebody else.
Too many people came to the conclusion that what religion say is what God said
which most probably is not the truth. 
Say, that god of yours sure doesn't mind slander. If people were going around my back telling everyone I said something I didn't say, I'd do something about it. That god of yours doesn't seem to be bothered at all. You'd think a deity would be able to clarify what it does and doesn't mean to say, wouldn't you?
So you don't believe in the god of the bible? What god do you believe in, then?
I already did explained this point in a different thread few days ago.
Suppose you have some kids.
When they are young you do your best to teach them how to live better
but as they grow up your role is different.
Now they are adults.
They decide what to do and you do not interfere in their lives anymore.
Whether they do good or bad is now their responsibility.
If they do something good you will be happy and they will be happy
but if they do something bad you will be sad but that's all you will do.
According to yoga as soon as you become human you are responsible
for your action.
You can say that your father is an idiot, you can do a lot of nasty things
and your father will keep quite.
That's your life.
You can say any thing that you like about your father.
He will let you say whatever you like but at the end it is you that loose. 
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RE: God Just Changed His Mind (from Evil to Good)
April 3, 2015 at 9:49 am
Great! Ricky is on this thread! Let the shit fest begin!
'The more I learn about people the more I like my dog'- Mark Twain
'You can have all the faith you want in spirits, and the afterlife, and heaven and hell, but when it comes to this world, don't be an idiot. Cause you can tell me you put your faith in God to put you through the day, but when it comes time to cross the road, I know you look both ways.' - Dr House
“Young earth creationism is essentially the position that all of modern science, 90% of living scientists and 98% of living biologists, all major university biology departments, every major science journal, the American Academy of Sciences, and every major science organization in the world, are all wrong regarding the origins and development of life….but one particular tribe of uneducated, bronze aged, goat herders got it exactly right.” - Chuck Easttom
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RE: God Just Changed His Mind (from Evil to Good)
April 3, 2015 at 9:58 am
(April 3, 2015 at 9:49 am)Riketto Wrote: I already did explained this point in a different thread few days ago.
Suppose you have some kids.
When they are young you do your best to teach them how to live better
but as they grow up your role is different.
Now they are adults.
They decide what to do and you do not interfere in their lives anymore.
Whether they do good or bad is now their responsibility.
If they do something good you will be happy and they will be happy
but if they do something bad you will be sad but that's all you will do.
According to yoga as soon as you become human you are responsible
for your action.
You can say that your father is an idiot, you can do a lot of nasty things
and your father will keep quite.
That's your life.
You can say any thing that you like about your father.
He will let you say whatever you like but at the end it is you that loose.
So there is an omnipotent, omniscient and omnipresent being that is willing to allow anything to happen, doesn't interfere in any way with our reality yet still if you don't worship it, it will execute consequences after you die? How can this alleged god blame us for anything we say against it, if it doesn't give us any reasons to believe that it exists?
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RE: God Just Changed His Mind (from Evil to Good)
April 3, 2015 at 10:00 am
(April 3, 2015 at 9:49 am)Bad Wolf Wrote: Great! Ricky is on this thread! Let the shit fest begin!
Sorry pal but do you mind if i don't participate at your fest.
I still can not salivate like you at the sight of raw meat but i can send my dog
maybe it will appreciate your fest.  
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RE: God Just Changed His Mind (from Evil to Good)
April 3, 2015 at 10:08 am
'The more I learn about people the more I like my dog'- Mark Twain
'You can have all the faith you want in spirits, and the afterlife, and heaven and hell, but when it comes to this world, don't be an idiot. Cause you can tell me you put your faith in God to put you through the day, but when it comes time to cross the road, I know you look both ways.' - Dr House
“Young earth creationism is essentially the position that all of modern science, 90% of living scientists and 98% of living biologists, all major university biology departments, every major science journal, the American Academy of Sciences, and every major science organization in the world, are all wrong regarding the origins and development of life….but one particular tribe of uneducated, bronze aged, goat herders got it exactly right.” - Chuck Easttom
"If my good friend Doctor Gasparri speaks badly of my mother, he can expect to get punched.....You cannot provoke. You cannot insult the faith of others. You cannot make fun of the faith of others. There is a limit." - Pope Francis on freedom of speech
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RE: God Just Changed His Mind (from Evil to Good)
April 3, 2015 at 10:14 am
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RE: God Just Changed His Mind (from Evil to Good)
April 3, 2015 at 10:17 am
Actually, I think you started the derailing of this thread on post number 3. But I'm not going to argue with you about this any more as it would be just as productive as shouting at a deaf person who can't read lips. So instead, I think I'll just post humorous gifs every time you post something.
'The more I learn about people the more I like my dog'- Mark Twain
'You can have all the faith you want in spirits, and the afterlife, and heaven and hell, but when it comes to this world, don't be an idiot. Cause you can tell me you put your faith in God to put you through the day, but when it comes time to cross the road, I know you look both ways.' - Dr House
“Young earth creationism is essentially the position that all of modern science, 90% of living scientists and 98% of living biologists, all major university biology departments, every major science journal, the American Academy of Sciences, and every major science organization in the world, are all wrong regarding the origins and development of life….but one particular tribe of uneducated, bronze aged, goat herders got it exactly right.” - Chuck Easttom
"If my good friend Doctor Gasparri speaks badly of my mother, he can expect to get punched.....You cannot provoke. You cannot insult the faith of others. You cannot make fun of the faith of others. There is a limit." - Pope Francis on freedom of speech
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RE: God Just Changed His Mind (from Evil to Good)
April 3, 2015 at 10:17 am
Oh, fuck me. Riketto's ventured out to a new thread. ![[Image: panic.gif]](https://images.weserv.nl/?url=forum.sfgame.de%2Fimages%2Fsmilies%2Fpanic.gif)
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RE: God Just Changed His Mind (from Evil to Good)
April 3, 2015 at 10:36 am
(April 3, 2015 at 9:58 am)Norman Humann Wrote: (April 3, 2015 at 9:49 am)Riketto Wrote: I already did explained this point in a different thread few days ago.
Suppose you have some kids.
When they are young you do your best to teach them how to live better
but as they grow up your role is different.
Now they are adults.
They decide what to do and you do not interfere in their lives anymore.
Whether they do good or bad is now their responsibility.
If they do something good you will be happy and they will be happy
but if they do something bad you will be sad but that's all you will do.
According to yoga as soon as you become human you are responsible
for your action.
You can say that your father is an idiot, you can do a lot of nasty things
and your father will keep quite.
That's your life.
You can say any thing that you like about your father.
He will let you say whatever you like but at the end it is you that loose.
So there is an omnipotent, omniscient and omnipresent being that is willing to allow anything to happen, doesn't interfere in any way with our reality yet still if you don't worship it, it will execute consequences after you die? How can this alleged god blame us for anything we say against it, if it doesn't give us any reasons to believe that it exists?
Ok, Norman. Sorry for this interferences by an old pal that i met years ago in some fanny spot but what can i do.
Now the first question.
1) ....... if you don't worship it, it will execute consequences after you die.........
How do you know that?
As far as i know and according to yoga God will not punish you just because you don't worship him.
He may punish you for doing something bad but not for not worship him.
If you don't believe in him all he may do is to not manifest in you.
2)........ How can this alleged god blame us for anything we say against it, if it doesn't give us any reasons to believe that it exists?
It is a question to reciprocate.
He will manifest in you if you believe in him and will not manifest in you if you don't believe in him.
But whatever is your believe or not believe in him every action has got to have an equal and opposite reaction so it is only what you do that will have
consequences not whether you believe or not in him.
In other words you can't say that he doesn't give you reasons to believe.
Would you reciprocate someone who doesn't give a damn about you?
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RE: God Just Changed His Mind (from Evil to Good)
April 3, 2015 at 10:41 am
(This post was last modified: April 3, 2015 at 10:42 am by Tonus.)
Quote:Would you reciprocate someone who doesn't give a damn about you?
I wouldn't. And since god doesn't give a damn about me, I don't give a damn about him.
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."
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