Is Allah simply testing the Palestinains?

[ReptilianPeon]

[Minimalist]

Actually Israel is killing them willy-nilly and the non-existent fucking allah has nothing to do with it.

[ReptilianPeon]

Actually Israel is killing them willy-nilly and the non-existent fucking allah has nothing to do with it.

I think that's what the Ummah secretly think too, so I'm just pointing out the double standards and hypocrisy of believers. Then again, they do say that Allah knows best so maybe it's for the best that people are getting slaughtered everyday. More evidence for either a deity that doesn't value human life or no deity at all.

[Minimalist]

Oddly, I think people find some sort of solace in thinking that whatever is going on is not "their fault" but rather that they are pawns in some sort of invisible cosmic game of Stratego.

You know, to listen to the story in the fucking bible, a couple of million Hebrews sat on their asses waiting for "god" to redeem them instead of rising up and rebelling against the Egyptians.  Same sort of idea.  

[RobertE]

Actually Israel is killing them willy-nilly and the non-existent fucking allah has nothing to do with it.

You should have been here in France when Israel retaliated against Hamas. There were manifestations against the Jews and Israel, Jewish shops were attacked in Paris, and yes, demonstrations in every major city in France.

Only a few days ago in Syria, many Palestinians were beheaded by ISIS and they are being treated even worse than the Israelis treat the Palestinians in Gaza. The total number of manifestations/demonstrations against ISIS in France amounted to a big fat zero. So, all in all, thanks to the media, Israel is painted as the enemy and the bad guy and Hamas/Palestine the good guys so they get support from around the world. My own opinion is this, I do feel sorry for the Palestinians, but if they want peace, then they should STOP voting for a terrorist organisation who does NOT give one single fuck about their own peoples welfare. People and liberals should stop with the anti-Israel already. By the same token, I am not saying that Israel is as white as snow in all of this, but it pisses me off to see people reacting like sheep and believe every single word of the liberal press, when they don't know a damn thing about Israel and the situation, apart from the usual "well, the land belongs to the Palestinians." Apart from that, they cannot develop the argument any further.

[Minimalist]

Israel is painted as the enemy and the bad guy

They are bad guys.  Somebody fires a rocket that lands in an empty field and they use it as an excuse to massacre 1,500 civilians.  Oh, and then Netan-yahoo calls for an election because he has just shown what a big cock he has by unleashing his army on essentially defenseless people.

Wake up.

[Mystic]

God favored the people of Israel when they showed patience in oppression and per Quran, this was a huge trial. But the believers pray as Ibrahim prays, that not to make them a trial to the oppressing people. 

But God has favored the oppressed over the oppressors per hadiths I am familiar with.

Nothing happens except by God's permission, but it doesn't mean everything he permits and wills he truly desires. 

[Minimalist]

It's a fairy tale, M/K.  Get over it.

[RobertE]

[ReptilianPeon]

God favored the people of Israel when they showed patience in oppression and per Quran, this was a huge trial. But the believers pray as Ibrahim prays, that not to make them a trial to the oppressing people. 

But God has favored the oppressed over the oppressors per hadiths I am familiar with.

Nothing happens except by God's permission, but it doesn't mean everything he permits and wills he truly desires. 

I am quite confused by your statement. In particular, when you say "doesn't mean everything he permits and wills he truly desires". That confused me because, and maybe I'm misconstruing here, that appears contradict the prior statement which says "nothing happens without God's permission".

You first you say only what Allah wills happens and then you seem to say that that not everything that Allah wants happens (even though only what Allah has given permission for happens). If the first statement is true than the second statement should be false, and if the second statement is true than the first statement should be false.

Edit: I'm confused. Sorry if it doesn't make sense.