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Commie says hi!
April 23, 2015 at 4:00 am
Greetings Atheist Forums,
I'm currently active on ReligiousForums.com and thought I might get involved here to be around more of my fellow atheists. I am a strong atheist, but currently thinking over how I can establish that as true and what it's implications would be. I am a communist in that I accept Marxist philosophy of nature (dialectical materialism) and society (historical materialism). There aren't many Communists left, so I'm ok with disagreeing with people and respecting others views so long as it's relatively civil.
I will save some time by saying that I am not an apologist for Stalin/Mao/Pol Pot etc and a great deal of my time is spent trying to understand why they did what they did and how far it was an inherent characteristic of the system/ideology as a way to find out if it could have been done better. I am familiar to many anti-communist criticisms (and have read F. Hayek's Road to Serfdom from cover to cover) and whilst they often true to a greater or lesser extent, they are often very simplistic and rely on specific political/philosophical assumptions which I don't share as a Marxist. As such I am not an orthodox Marxist, but share enough in common with those who went before to call myself a 'commie'.
I look forward to debating everyone here and learning things from you. 
regards,
Red.
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RE: Commie says hi!
April 23, 2015 at 4:03 am
Hi commie!
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RE: Commie says hi!
April 23, 2015 at 4:04 am
Hey Red, welcome to the forums.
It's good to have a Marxist on board to share a different viewpoint on things. Personally I grow skeptical of liberalism, the founding system of our societies, and as such I'll pretty much vote for anyone who wants to rebuild everything from scratch - If that happened to be a Marxist, so be it. I think Marx, like Darwin, was greatly misunderstood. One thing I agree with communists is that those who control the means of production and the economy control society - No doubt about that.
What do you think of Stalin's idea (let's leave the violence he did aside for a while) to build communism inside one country following a more nationalistic idea as opposed to Marx's internationalist proposal? Do you think communism inside a country has higher chances to work? I have a Stalinist friend in real life.
BTW, do you think theists and religious people can be communists?
Well, I hope you stick around and reply to more threads. 
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RE: Commie says hi!
April 23, 2015 at 4:08 am
(This post was last modified: April 23, 2015 at 4:16 am by robvalue.)
Hey there red, welcome 
To me, the best argument for strong atheism is to attack the claims. Except for trivial claims such as "the sun is God", at least one of these is almost certainly true:
-The concept of God is not well defined
-The concept and/or claim is unfalsifiable
In either case, the claim is irrelevant and useless so can be dismissed. It's based on a stance called ignosticism. Check this out for much more detail:
http://www.strongatheism.net/library/ath...gnitivism/
I don't know much about politics and such, but I think an ideal society would follow a communist/socialist model. However, human nature does not currently seem compatible with it.
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RE: Commie says hi!
April 23, 2015 at 4:26 am
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Welcome to the forums!
Finally a communist to compensate for all the Nazis!
Kidding, kidding, great to have you here. Looking forward to your defense of Marxist natural philosophy.I'm always weary of philosophy of nature by people who didn't even live to really see modern physics and biology
The fool hath said in his heart, There is a God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
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RE: Commie says hi!
April 23, 2015 at 4:56 am
Welcome Red!
I think all those communist regimes failed because of the human element in them.... how can you remove that from any form of government is beyond me, so we're left with this crappy liberalism/capitalism, tempered by some weak socialism that can be found throughout Western Europe... seems to get the job done, even if it consistently deteriorates the people's ability to live comfortably... Then you get a revolution and it all starts over... some lose a lot of money, others gain... most improve a bit only to then start the declining road all over again.
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RE: Commie says hi!
April 23, 2015 at 6:37 am
Commie!
Watch out for our resident Bosnian spy.
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RE: Commie says hi!
April 23, 2015 at 6:40 am
I think he introduced himself as "not a spy" 
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April 23, 2015 at 6:54 am
They are not the Bosnians you are looking for...
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RE: Commie says hi!
April 23, 2015 at 6:55 am
Red! Hope you enjoy your stay here.
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