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What Exactly Are Sins?

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What Exactly Are Sins?
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#21
RE: What Exactly Are Sins?
April 25, 2015 at 11:03 pm
Or more if that particular god turns out to be a false deity.
 The granting of a pardon is an imputation of guilt, and the acceptance a confession of it. 




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RE: What Exactly Are Sins?
April 25, 2015 at 11:07 pm
(April 25, 2015 at 10:52 pm)Polaris Wrote: I accidentally committed a version of adultery according to the New Testament version.

A spiritual rift is when the presence of God is not found in the life of a person. The person becomes less than what they are supposed to be.

I am uncertain what accidental adultery is. 

Please tell me if I have misunderstood your definition of sin. Sin is an act or thought that leads to god being absence from a person's life.  Did I get that correct?
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RE: What Exactly Are Sins?
April 25, 2015 at 11:09 pm
And what are they supposed to be?
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: What Exactly Are Sins?
April 26, 2015 at 11:41 pm
(April 25, 2015 at 10:52 pm)Polaris Wrote: I accidentally committed a version of adultery according to the New Testament version.

A spiritual rift is when the presence of God is not found in the life of a person. The person becomes less than what they are supposed to be.

''accidentally''? 

Ah, the new loopholes of Christianity.  Wink
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RE: What Exactly Are Sins?
April 27, 2015 at 12:21 am
(April 25, 2015 at 12:29 pm)Nope Wrote: What exactly is sin?

Unbelief.
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RE: What Exactly Are Sins?
April 27, 2015 at 12:40 am
Sin is when in thought or deed you contradict the so-called wisdom of self-proclaimed saints, such as Huggy for example.
He who loves God cannot endeavour that God should love him in return - Baruch Spinoza
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RE: What Exactly Are Sins?
April 27, 2015 at 1:25 am
Sin is doubting or disobeying Jehovah.  If Jehovah isn't real, then sin isn't real either. 

Don't conflate sin with evil.  Evil (things that make people unhappy) is the punishment for sin.  Evil exists regardless of whether gods exist. 

Moral evils are one reason why people conflate sin and evil.  Gluttony, for instance, is disobedient, but it can also make people unhappy.  So, sometimes it is both a sin and an evil.  

Sin is doubting or disobeying.  Doubt is the bigger part.  Eve's first sin wasn't when she bit the apple; it was when she entertained the serpent's argument that god didn't have her best interests in mind.

 
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RE: What Exactly Are Sins?
April 27, 2015 at 7:22 am (This post was last modified: April 27, 2015 at 7:24 am by Nope.)
(April 27, 2015 at 12:21 am)Huggy74 Wrote:
(April 25, 2015 at 12:29 pm)Nope Wrote: What exactly is sin?

Unbelief.
Are you saying that unbelief is one among many sins or that it is the only sin?
(April 27, 2015 at 1:25 am)wiploc Wrote: Sin is doubting or disobeying Jehovah.  If Jehovah isn't real, then sin isn't real either. 

Don't conflate sin with evil.  Evil (things that make people unhappy) is the punishment for sin.  Evil exists regardless of whether gods exist. 

Moral evils are one reason why people conflate sin and evil.  Gluttony, for instance, is disobedient, but it can also make people unhappy.  So, sometimes it is both a sin and an evil.  

Sin is doubting or disobeying.  Doubt is the bigger part.  Eve's first sin wasn't when she bit the apple; it was when she entertained the serpent's argument that god didn't have her best interests in mind.

 

I am trying to understand how your beliefs work. Would something like rape be evil but not a sin?
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RE: What Exactly Are Sins?
April 27, 2015 at 12:41 pm
(April 27, 2015 at 7:22 am)Nope Wrote:
(April 27, 2015 at 12:21 am)Huggy74 Wrote: Unbelief.
Are you saying that unbelief is one among many sins or that it is the only sin?
Unbelief IS sin.
For instance adultery is not a sin, it is an attribute of sin. If I handed you a jar filled with liquid and told you it was poisonous, but you proceeded to drink it anyway, it shows you didn't believe what I said, or else you wouldn't have drunk it. Therefore the act of you drinking the poison was not your mistake, the mistake was not believing what I said. Likewise not obeying the commandments of God shows that you don't believe God, which is the sin.

As the Bible states, "wages of sin (unbelief) is death...

Quote:Jude 1
5 I will therefore put you in remembrance, though ye once knew this, how that the Lord, having saved the people out of the land of Egypt, afterward destroyed them that believed not.
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RE: What Exactly Are Sins?
April 27, 2015 at 1:08 pm
And by what signs will we know that they believe ??
 The granting of a pardon is an imputation of guilt, and the acceptance a confession of it. 




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