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RE: The ONLY excuse good enough for God?
May 29, 2015 at 4:05 pm
(May 29, 2015 at 3:58 pm)ronedee Wrote: (May 29, 2015 at 2:03 pm)Thackerie Wrote: I would have said "ignorance," but then I realized that ignorance is one of few reasons to believe in a god and sin and all that crap in the first place.
Yes! You win the prize. Actually, all of you do..... by reason of "Ignorance". And Jesus even exonerates you from the cross: "Father for give them. For they know not what they do."
But, that "ignorance" doesn't come without a price. Not necessarily eternal damnation. But, there will be a "cost". Because the "wages of sin is death". Jesus put no stock in "blood sacrifice". Its Eternal Life that was, and is the ultimate goal. And that is what hangs in the balance. The "way" He went was to emphasis His death. He could've went any way He chose. Unfortunately, its what we demanded of Him! His purpose was to live a perfect life, and to teach us how to live to attain eternal life! Not to die horrifically. That was just the means to an end. You have it all backwards because of the way you think.
Luke 12.4-7
"I tell you, my friends, do not be afraid of those who kill the body and after that can do no more. But I will show you whom you should fear: Fear him who, after your body has been killed, has authority to throw you into hell. Yes, I tell you, fear him."
So, if you can get past those nailed-shut minds. And think of reasons "why", instead of "why not".... it may make "some" sense to you that just perhaps, things are the way they are in this life for a reason.
Ignorance may be the only way to heaven, for most. For me? Its not an option. "For those who much is given, much is expected." So, enjoy your blissful ignorance. But, be prepared. There is still a price according to your level of ignorance! Good Luck!
Jesus, the god figure, did not exist. Whether Jesus, the human, was a myth or based on an actual person, he had no more control over his death than anyone else.
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RE: The ONLY excuse good enough for God?
May 29, 2015 at 4:08 pm
Cool.
Story.
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Bro.
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Don't worry, my friend. If this be the end, then so shall it be.
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RE: The ONLY excuse good enough for God?
May 29, 2015 at 4:08 pm
(This post was last modified: May 29, 2015 at 4:09 pm by Simon Moon.)
(May 29, 2015 at 3:58 pm)ronedee Wrote: Yes! You win the prize. Actually, all of you do..... by reason of "Ignorance". And Jesus even exonerates you from the cross: "Father for give them. For they know not what they do."
But, that "ignorance" doesn't come without a price. Not necessarily eternal damnation. But, there will be a "cost". Because the "wages of sin is death". Jesus put no stock in "blood sacrifice". Its Eternal Life that was, and is the ultimate goal. And that is what hangs in the balance. The "way" He went was to emphasis His death. He could've went any way He chose. Unfortunately, its what we demanded of Him! His purpose was to live a perfect life, and to teach us how to live to attain eternal life! Not to die horrifically. That was just the means to an end. You have it all backwards because of the way you think.
Luke 12.4-7
"I tell you, my friends, do not be afraid of those who kill the body and after that can do no more. But I will show you whom you should fear: Fear him who, after your body has been killed, has authority to throw you into hell. Yes, I tell you, fear him."
So, if you can get past those nailed-shut minds. And think of reasons "why", instead of "why not".... it may make "some" sense to you that just perhaps, things are the way they are in this life for a reason.
Ignorance may be the only way to heaven, for most. For me? Its not an option. "For those who much is given, much is expected." So, enjoy your blissful ignorance. But, be prepared. There is still a price according to your level of ignorance! Good Luck!
So then...
A bunch of unevidenced, illogical, irrational crap.
Why don't I feel that my atheism has been "blown to smithereens", as you promised?
You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
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RE: The ONLY excuse good enough for God?
May 29, 2015 at 4:12 pm
OP The only thing you were able to blow to smithereens was pretty much nothing. We blew you to smithereens with logical and rational reasoning.
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RE: The ONLY excuse good enough for God?
May 29, 2015 at 4:13 pm
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(May 29, 2015 at 4:08 pm)Simon Moon Wrote: So then...
A bunch of unevidenced, illogical, irrational crap.
Why don't I feel that my atheism has been "blown to smithereens", as you promised?
LOL! Because you are.... wait for it ....... "Ignorant". 
(May 29, 2015 at 4:12 pm)dyresand Wrote: OP The only thing you were able to blow to smithereens was pretty much nothing. We blew you to smithereens with logical and rational reasoning.
Ok... can you "disprove" anything I said?
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RE: The ONLY excuse good enough for God?
May 29, 2015 at 4:14 pm
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Anyone else as amused as I am at having Ron tell us what the price of ignorance is? Trust me, whenever you deign to grace us with the pearls of your wisdom, Ron...we can plainly see the price of ignorance.
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RE: The ONLY excuse good enough for God?
May 29, 2015 at 4:16 pm
(May 29, 2015 at 4:14 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Anyone else as amused as I am at having Ron tell us what the price of ignorance is? Trust me, whenever you deign to grace us with the pearls of your wisdom, Ron...we can plainly see the price of ignorance.
Too high priced for ya? We have the economy version behind door 3..... 
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RE: The ONLY excuse good enough for God?
May 29, 2015 at 4:17 pm
(May 29, 2015 at 3:58 pm)ronedee Wrote: Jesus put no stock in "blood sacrifice".
Jesus was the blood sacrifice!!! Simply fucking stupid.
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RE: The ONLY excuse good enough for God?
May 29, 2015 at 4:19 pm
(May 29, 2015 at 4:17 pm)Cato Wrote: (May 29, 2015 at 3:58 pm)ronedee Wrote: Jesus put no stock in "blood sacrifice".
Jesus was the blood sacrifice!!! Simply fucking stupid.
No what is stupid is your total lack of comprehension.
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RE: The ONLY excuse good enough for God?
May 29, 2015 at 4:21 pm
(May 29, 2015 at 4:13 pm)ronedee Wrote: (May 29, 2015 at 4:08 pm)Simon Moon Wrote: So then...
A bunch of unevidenced, illogical, irrational crap.
Why don't I feel that my atheism has been "blown to smithereens", as you promised?
LOL! Because you are.... wait for it ....... "Ignorant".
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