IF in the end, you find that God does exist ....
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May 31, 2015 at 1:55 pm
(This post was last modified: May 31, 2015 at 1:56 pm by Alex K.)
@ronedee
I don't understand what you mean by "accept", either. Can you clarify?
The fool hath said in his heart, There is a God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
Psalm 14, KJV revised edition
Would that be a singular god?
How would I know it's the only one, or even the best one? I mean, if there's one there might be a bunch more - and better ones. What if I accept a weakling god and he ends up nailed to a stick again?
"The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one." - George Bernard Shaw
I wouldn't have any problem with it, but I'm sure a being with the power to create a universe is going to be less than impressed with the special brand of idiocy that comes with worshiping Abraham's idea of God.
 (May 31, 2015 at 1:38 pm)ronedee Wrote: ... will you unconditionally accept Him as your God? I always get stuck on the Cartesian Demon issue. Unless He gives me powers to discern that He is not yanking my chain (e.g. powers equivalent or greater than His own) I have no way to be sure that He is who He says He is. If He does grant such powers, I'd have to admit He existed, but there would be no reason to accept Him as master because I'd be on the same level or greater and it would be just as appropriate for Him to accept Me as topGod. This would be a mistake for Him because I would immediately and effectively hold Him responsible for being such an asswipe in the past. So the answer is 'No' unless he makes me.
So how, exactly, does God know that She's NOT a brain in a vat?
 (May 31, 2015 at 1:38 pm)ronedee Wrote: Try to give better responses than my 5 year old.If you want better responses, you've got to ask better questions, Ron. A simple "Yes" or "No" to an ambiguous question is exactly what I'd expect from a five-year-old. Is that all you want, a yes/no answer? I don't have a yes/no answer to that question. No one should, if they're taking it seriously.
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."
-Stephen Jay Gould  (May 31, 2015 at 1:38 pm)ronedee Wrote: ... will you unconditionally accept Him as your God? No. Hope your kid can top that.  (May 31, 2015 at 1:38 pm)ronedee Wrote: ... will you unconditionally accept Him as your God? No. I never understood the need people have to worship things. It confuses me. You can fix ignorance, you can't fix stupid. Tinkety Tonk and down with the Nazis.  RE: IF in the end, you find that God does exist ....
May 31, 2015 at 2:18 pm
(This post was last modified: May 31, 2015 at 2:18 pm by I_am_not_mafia.)
Please define what a god is.
NO! I am obviously not dead yet and only suffering from NDE.
You make people miserable and there's nothing they can do about it, just like god.
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