Religious Freedom laws and adoptions!!!

[Nope]

I just heard Michigan's Governor Rick Snyder ® signed a bill into law allowing faith based adoption agencies to deny couples based on their religious views.

What's that even supposed to mean? Is adoption a commodity in the States too? Go out, found one and have fun transporting every bit of agenda while trading in children?

In Europe, adoption is handled by national agencies to make sure the laws are observed and there's no ulterior motif involved.

Does Europe not have any private adoption agencies? 


http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2013...on-liberia
Nancy Campbell is the same woman that I started a thread about a few days ago. 

Christian ministries. Campbell—whose magazine likened adoption to "missions under our very own roof!"—spent a week visiting Liberian orphanages and returned with "piles of letters addressed 'To any Mom and Dad.'" She touted the country's cost-effectiveness—"one of the cheapest international adoptions"—and claimed that 1 million infants were dying every year in this nation of fewer than 4 million people. "When we welcome a child into our heart and into our home," she wrote, "we actually welcome Jesus Himself."

Adopting babies, for some right leaning Christians, is a way to evangelize a new generation.

The magazine's Liberia campaign, it turned out, heralded an "orphan theology" movement that has taken hold among mainstream evangelical churches, whose flocks are urged to adopt as an extension of pro-life beliefs, a way to address global poverty, and a means of spreading the Gospel in their homes. The movement's leaders, as I discovered while researching my upcoming book on the topic, portray adoption as physical and spiritual salvation for orphans and a way for Christians to emulate God, who, after all, "adopted" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">. 

The private organizations that Campbell advised people to use were not regulated(although they might be now). 

They didn't attend school, either; home schooling mostly consisted of Serene reading to the younger children. When the older kids watched a school bus drive past on a country road and asked why they couldn't go, they were met with various excuses. So Isaiah and Alfred worked with Sam in his house-painting business or labored in Nancy Campbell's immense vegetable garden while CeCe, Kula, and Cherish cleaned, cooked, and tended to a growing brood of young ones. It was also the job of the "African kids," as they called themselves, to keep a reservoir filled with water from the creek. CeCe hadn't yet learned to read when Serene gave her a book on midwifery so she could learn to deliver their future babies. "They treated us pretty much like slaves," she said. It's a provocative accusation, but one that Kula and Isaiah—as well as two neighbors and a children's welfare worker—all repeated.


Discipline included being hit with rubber hosing or something resembling a riding crop if the children disrespected Serene, rejected her meals, or failed to fill the reservoir. For other infractions, they were made to sleep on the porch without blankets. Engedi, the toddler, was disciplined for her attachment to CeCe. To encourage her bond with Serene, the Allisons would place the child on the floor between them and CeCe and call her. If Engedi went to CeCe instead, the children recalled, the Allisons would spank her until she wet herself.

[Longhorn]

LANSING (AP) -- Michigan Gov. Rick Snyder has signed a law letting faith-based adoption agencies with state contracts decline to participate in referrals that violate their beliefs.

oooh, of COURSE! we can't let children be adopted by loving parents, can we now? that would go against our blind, self-absorbed bigotry against people who aren't the same as we are!

also....'their' beliefs? since when do adoption agencies have fucking beliefs?

what a pile of fucking shit. this is pure lunacy.

[robvalue]

"Beliefs that cannot be rationally justified based adoption agency. Fags need not apply."

Probably getting ready for the inevitable gay marriage green light.

"We believe homosexuals are bad parents. Like our faith, we have no evidence of this."

[abaris]

Does Europe not have any private adoption agencies? 

I'm not entirely sure, but there's a legal process to ensure that there are no ulterior motifs involved.

There's national law, but there's also the European convention that all member states have to abide by.

The original convention of 1967

http://conventions.coe.int/Treaty/EN/Tre...ml/058.htm

And the revised one from 2008

http://conventions.coe.int/Treaty/EN/Tre...ml/202.htm

[Crossless2.0]

I hate to say it, but we are going to see more and more of this shit. Step by step, the stridently conservative faction within Christianity is losing the culture war in the U.S., and they know it. So expect similar jaw-dropping examples of their lunacy and cruelty to be enacted in such places as they continue to have political muscle; then watch as their initiatives get shot down by the courts and they whine about the judiciary usurping their 'rights'.

[Nope]

I hate to say it, but we are going to see more and more of this shit.  Step by step, the stridently conservative faction within Christianity is losing the culture war in the U.S., and they know it.  So expect similar jaw-dropping examples of their lunacy and cruelty to be enacted in such places as they continue to have political muscle; then watch as their initiatives get shot down by the courts and they whine about the judiciary usurping their 'rights'.

Eventually, their actions will alienate a lot of younger people.

[Esquilax]

"Vulnerable children mean less to me than my need to exclude people who dare believe things I don't believe in." - Rick Snyder, 2015.

[robvalue]

I hate to say it, but we are going to see more and more of this shit.  Step by step, the stridently conservative faction within Christianity is losing the culture war in the U.S., and they know it.  So expect similar jaw-dropping examples of their lunacy and cruelty to be enacted in such places as they continue to have political muscle; then watch as their initiatives get shot down by the courts and they whine about the judiciary usurping their 'rights'.

Eventually, their actions will alienate a lot of younger people.

I assume you mean potential young believers? I think you are right. The younger generations are going to be put off by this kind of bogus bigotry on the whole, I would expect. I guess we're seeing polarization, people going more and more liberal or else doubling down on the crazy. Pick a side

[Crossless2.0]

I hate to say it, but we are going to see more and more of this shit.  Step by step, the stridently conservative faction within Christianity is losing the culture war in the U.S., and they know it.  So expect similar jaw-dropping examples of their lunacy and cruelty to be enacted in such places as they continue to have political muscle; then watch as their initiatives get shot down by the courts and they whine about the judiciary usurping their 'rights'.

Eventually, their actions will alienate a lot of younger people.

That is one of my dearest hopes.

[Godscreated]

I just heard Michigan's Governor Rick Snyder ® signed a bill into law allowing faith based adoption agencies to deny couples based on their religious views.

What's that even supposed to mean? Is adoption a commodity in the States too? Go out, found one and have fun transporting every bit of agenda while trading in children?

In Europe, adoption is handled by national agencies to make sure the laws are observed and there's no ulterior motif involved.

So, the European nations as individuals do not have the population of the United States, so the individual states handle there own adoptions.

GC