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RE: Agnostic among Atheists
July 4, 2015 at 5:08 pm
(July 4, 2015 at 4:41 pm)Saxmoof Wrote: Welcome! 
Every atheist is agnostic and every agnostic is atheist, it's just a matter of which label you prefer
And where are you from?
I'm from Brazil.
(July 4, 2015 at 5:03 pm)Neimenovic Wrote: Like has been said, atheism and agnosticism overlap. You're an atheist if you don't believe in god, and an agnostic one if you don't claim to know god doesn't exist or a gnostic one if you do. The supernatural has nothing to do with it. Atheism is only a response to the god claim, nothing more. A-theism. Non-theism. Non believer.
And I'm not a non-believer, I just don't know if there's a God looking after us. It sorta has to do with supernatural beings. The Christian god is believed to me an omnipresent and omnipotent being. Something like that just can't be natural at all, in my opinion.
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RE: Agnostic among Atheists
July 4, 2015 at 5:09 pm
(July 4, 2015 at 4:59 pm)doomed Wrote: Let me explain what I actually believe, please? Well, I don't consider myself atheist because I don't believe that there are no god(s) over there eve though I live very much like an atheist, but I also don't have any religious belief nor do I hold the belief that supernatural beings are impossible to exist. So, I don't consider myself atheist, but the agnostic label fits me perfectly well.
If you believe there are gods then you are a theist.
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RE: Agnostic among Atheists
July 4, 2015 at 5:14 pm
(July 4, 2015 at 5:09 pm)Mr.wizard Wrote: (July 4, 2015 at 4:59 pm)doomed Wrote: Let me explain what I actually believe, please? Well, I don't consider myself atheist because I don't believe that there are no god(s) over there eve though I live very much like an atheist, but I also don't have any religious belief nor do I hold the belief that supernatural beings are impossible to exist. So, I don't consider myself atheist, but the agnostic label fits me perfectly well.
If you believe there are gods then you are a theist.
Sorry, I think I didn't explain myself very well. What I meant is that I don't believe we should say that there are gods over there nor that there are no gods. Let me fix this up.
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RE: Agnostic among Atheists
July 4, 2015 at 5:16 pm
This is the Dawkins scale
So you're a pure agnostic then? That's cool too
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RE: Agnostic among Atheists
July 4, 2015 at 5:18 pm
Welcome!
And what they said...
The fool hath said in his heart, There is a God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
Psalm 14, KJV revised edition
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RE: Agnostic among Atheists
July 4, 2015 at 5:19 pm
(July 4, 2015 at 5:14 pm)doomed Wrote: (July 4, 2015 at 5:09 pm)Mr.wizard Wrote: If you believe there are gods then you are a theist.
Sorry, I think I didn't explain myself very well. What I meant is that I don't believe we should say that there are gods over there nor that there are no gods. Let me fix this up.
Well when it comes to the question of whether a god exists, what do you believe? Do you currently hold a belief that a god exists?
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RE: Agnostic among Atheists
July 4, 2015 at 5:22 pm
(July 4, 2015 at 5:16 pm)Neimenovic Wrote: This is the Dawkins scale
So you're a pure agnostic then? That's cool too
I'm more inclined to the atheist scale since I live my life just like an atheist and I believe that the existence of God is rather unlikely. I guess I'm using the agnostic label because of a matter of preference? Atheists seem to be so sure that a God doesn't exist, at least the ones I know.
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RE: Agnostic among Atheists
July 4, 2015 at 5:24 pm
I'm an atheist, and I'm not sure about the existence of a god...
Nolite te bastardes carborundorum.
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RE: Agnostic among Atheists
July 4, 2015 at 5:24 pm
You are very welcome here. How are you enjoying the conversations so far?
Being told you're delusional does not necessarily mean you're mental.
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RE: Agnostic among Atheists
July 4, 2015 at 5:31 pm
(July 4, 2015 at 5:18 pm)Alex K Wrote: Welcome!
And what they said... Thanks Alex.
(July 4, 2015 at 5:19 pm)Mr.wizard Wrote: (July 4, 2015 at 5:14 pm)doomed Wrote: Sorry, I think I didn't explain myself very well. What I meant is that I don't believe we should say that there are gods over there nor that there are no gods. Let me fix this up.
Well when it comes to the question of whether a god exists, what do you believe? Do you currently hold a belief that a god exists? I think... Well, I dunno and I don't care. I don't hold any belief right now. I actually have the belief that most people have their own personal gods, but I can't say they're real or not, just that the person use them to comfort themselves.
(July 4, 2015 at 5:24 pm)rexbeccarox Wrote: I'm an atheist, and I'm not sure about the existence of a god... I see... So there are agnostic atheists out there too. Do you think it's wrong for me to call myself agnostic atheist based on what I said about my beliefs? Why?
(July 4, 2015 at 5:24 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: You are very welcome here. How are you enjoying the conversations so far? They're not so bad. I just came here and we're all trying to define what the words agnostic and atheist means. Thanks for the welcome, by the way.
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