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RE: If God changed his mind
July 22, 2015 at 10:23 pm
(July 21, 2015 at 1:18 pm)Godschild Wrote: (July 21, 2015 at 1:35 am)Jenny A Wrote: Wait a minute, you would if it you thought it fulfilled god's purpose. Fine, let's alter the question slightly. What if god told you it was his purpose to: kill all homosexuals; kill all atheists; or kill all Muslims. Would you do any of those things? Image a burning bush said it was it's plan.
I haven't answered a hypothetical question yet and I want, I've explained a hundred times here I do not invest my life in hypothetical situations, they have no meaning to life, they waste it. So catch this if you can, God doesn't need to send me to kill anyone, His Son died for justice to be served and in time it will be. God wouldn't tell to kill anyone, He would be lying and God doesn't lie.
GC Then why even respond in the first place?
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To the last syllable of recorded time;
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RE: If God changed his mind
July 24, 2015 at 8:25 am
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(July 17, 2015 at 12:46 pm)Spooky Wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ysecinv367w
With idiots like this, I assume the answer is an easy Yes.
Does this genius thinks pi = 3? Because that's what the Bible says!
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RE: If God changed his mind
July 24, 2015 at 8:59 am
Surprise surprise, no one has been able to answer this.
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RE: If God changed his mind
July 25, 2015 at 4:05 am
(July 24, 2015 at 8:59 am)robvalue Wrote: Surprise surprise, no one has been able to answer this.
Ronny did a good job so give credit where it is do
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
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RE: If God changed his mind
July 25, 2015 at 5:12 am
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Did he? OK I missed that, I'll check it out.
Yes, that's a decent answer. It seems to suggest that God is not the sole author of morality, though. If "following your heart" produces a different result to simply doing what God says, this points to a separate source. And if you'd listen to it over God who is standing right in front of you, clearly God is a minor contributor.
Can't have it both ways.
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RE: If God changed his mind
July 25, 2015 at 10:17 am
(July 25, 2015 at 5:12 am)robvalue Wrote: Did he? OK I missed that, I'll check it out.
Yes, that's a decent answer. It seems to suggest that God is not the sole author of morality, though. If "following your heart" produces a different result to simply doing what God says, this points to a separate source. And if you'd listen to it over God who is standing right in front of you, clearly God is a minor contributor.
Can't have it both ways.
It means he thinks Abraham and the Israelites are assholes. Either that, or his heart would tell him to murder, rape, etc., whenever god commanded it.
I agree that if you follow your heart rather than God, then God is not the arbiter of right and wrong, and God is pretty much irrelevant to morality.
"A wise man ... proportions his belief to the evidence."
— David Hume, An Enquiry Concerning Human Understanding, Section X, Part I.
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RE: If God changed his mind
July 25, 2015 at 10:21 am
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It's a shame catholic lady is gone, I wanted to ask her about her refusal to murder on god's instructions. How can she justify this while also claiming all morality comes from God? Especially since she knows about this failure criteria in advance. Where did that criteria come from?
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RE: If God changed his mind
July 25, 2015 at 10:45 am
(July 25, 2015 at 10:21 am)robvalue Wrote: It's a shame catholic lady is gone, I wanted to ask her about her refusal to murder on god's instructions. How can she justify this while also claiming all morality comes from God? Especially since she knows about this failure criteria in advance. Where did that criteria come from?
[Catholic_Lady hat on]
I respect your opinion.
[Catholic_Lady hat off.]
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RE: If God changed his mind
July 25, 2015 at 3:52 pm
(July 25, 2015 at 10:17 am)Pyrrho Wrote: (July 25, 2015 at 5:12 am)robvalue Wrote: Did he? OK I missed that, I'll check it out.
Yes, that's a decent answer. It seems to suggest that God is not the sole author of morality, though. If "following your heart" produces a different result to simply doing what God says, this points to a separate source. And if you'd listen to it over God who is standing right in front of you, clearly God is a minor contributor.
Can't have it both ways.
It means he thinks Abraham and the Israelites are assholes. Either that, or his heart would tell him to murder, rape, etc., whenever god commanded it.
I agree that if you follow your heart rather than God, then God is not the arbiter of right and wrong, and God is pretty much irrelevant to morality. People do all of those things everyday because their "leaders" tell them to do it. And when they don't do as told they are punished, sometimes with death. So you can bet that if a genuine god creature told people to do those things people would do them in a flash without a nanosecond of thought.
The God character of the Bible was simply the series of men who ruled the dominant Middle Eastern empires in ancient times. People did as they were told to do or else they were killed. And when the leader was an insane nut people were always being killed.
Imagine ISIS.
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RE: If God changed his mind
July 25, 2015 at 5:46 pm
(July 25, 2015 at 10:21 am)robvalue Wrote: It's a shame catholic lady is gone, I wanted to ask her about her refusal to murder on god's instructions. How can she justify this while also claiming all morality comes from God? Especially since she knows about this failure criteria in advance. Where did that criteria come from?
What? Wtf did I miss.
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
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