Is it bad that Muhammed(pbuh) married Aicha ?

[TubbyTubby]

Ok I'm not here to defend countries

I'm not asking you to, I'm asking why, if you think accepted practice of marrying age has altered through time and culture why should anyone still consider the Qurans view of puberty being the limit as proper?

[huss88ein]

Ok I'm not here to defend countries

I'm not asking you to, I'm asking why, if you think accepted practice of marrying age has altered through time and culture why should anyone still consider the Qurans view of puberty being the limit as proper?

Because biologically it is !!

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I just need to clarify one thing I made this debate before the refusal of homosexuality in islam because of the pressure that was made in the ethics debate to adress it there and I saw it would be better as a separate thread so everyone can participate and concentrate on it and because I didn't have the time then to do a decent research due to the holidays .

[Aoi Magi]

10 > 9 i.e 9 != puberty

And a child is not capable of consenting to sex. Fucking a 9yr old is the most disgusting thing, and any religion, law, state or whatever that supports such a heinous crime deserves to be eradicated from this world.

Also why should morality of your god(piss-buh) match the barbaric mentality of that period instead of being absolute like he claims it to be?

[Iroscato]

She was 9 at least when the marriage was consumated

Fuck, that made me sick just reading it. Apologia for paedophilia. Whatever the hell next?
Get this through your thick fucking skull huss - just because a girl starts puberty and begins having periods, it does not mean she is biologically ready for the physical and psychological trauma intercourse with a fully grown man can potentially cause. The entire subject is difficult for me to even think about, I have no idea how the hell you can not only discuss it openly, but appear to be supporting it.

[Cato]

I'm interested in your definition of puberty as it pertains to a female child.

Girls reach puberty at the age of 10-11 in average .

Fuck me. I can't imagine what goes through a man's mind that makes a child a desirable bride. 

My daughter is now 25 and has spawned two beautiful grandchildren. I started young, so I'm only 45; however, I would love nothing more than to be ringside for a cage match between you and my daughter after telling her that my granddaughter could essentially be auctioned off to you in just 8.5 more years.

[huss88ein]

10 > 9 i.e 9 != puberty

And a child is not capable of consenting to sex. Fucking a 9yr old is the most disgusting thing, and any religion, law, state or whatever that supports such a heinous crime deserves to be eradicated from this world.

Also why should morality of your god(piss-buh) match the barbaric mentality of that period instead of being absolute like he claims it to be?

Well first it's 10 average and hot places like saudia arabia it tends to be less than that and she was at least 9 as we don't know for sure.

As for ur emotional argument which is clearly based on what u see on TV like Law and order and stuff I will ignore it.

As for being my god he's not he's the prophet of god .

And for the laws of that time thing I don't think you've read the link in my first post .

[Iroscato]

Ok huss88ein, answer this one question. The answer will decide whether or not I engage with you any further. Ignoring the question will be answering from where I'm standing.

In plainly-spoken terms, without dancing around the answer, do you believe sex with an 8-12 year old is wrong?

[huss88ein]

Girls reach puberty at the age of 10-11 in average .

Fuck me. I can't imagine what goes through a man's mind that makes a child a desirable bride. 

My daughter is now 25 and has spawned two beautiful grandchildren. I started young, so I'm only 45; however, I would love nothing more than to be ringside for a cage match between you and my daughter after telling her that my granddaughter could essentially be auctioned off to you in just 8.5 more years.

Well I can't imagine how someone can be gay for example but u don't see me wining about it .

As for ur grandchild I say it is the parents choice not hers only so u have nothing to worry about .

Listen man the prophet also married a woman that's 15 years older than him and a widower and a christian and a jew and divorced so that he can teach us that all women are good for marriage no matter what the circumstances are.

And Aicha was the only virgin he married and she lived after him for 20 decades teaching people islam in a matter of fact most of the muslims essential scripts would have been lost if not for her so it wasn't just for fun as u imagine .

[Homeless Nutter]

She was 9 at least when the marriage was consumated

and yes I know biology and puberty differs and subject to many elements.
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Yeah - 9 years old is not it, however you cut it. I'm sure you'd love for your daughter to get properly f-ed at the age of 9, right? And who the f*** wants to have sex with a 9 year old anyway, other than priests and other nonces? Have you seen a 9 year old you fancied, recently? Because I've seen some 9 year olds - they all look like children, unsurprisingly...

A question for u would marry a woman that is 15 years older than u ?

When I was 6 years old? I might "toy" with the idea, except my parents probably wouldn't let me, because they're not desert-dwelling, goat-herding brain-dead cultists from bronze age.

[huss88ein]

Ok huss88ein, answer this one question. The answer will decide whether or not I engage with you any further. Ignoring the question will be answering from where I'm standing.

In plainly-spoken terms, without dancing around the answer, do you believe sex with an 8-12 year old is wrong?

If ur asking if I would marry a 12 years old girl the answer is no but that's my choice and it doesn't mean it didn't work well for others whom I know for god sake my mother was only 13 when she got married and she raised well and she doesn't feel like a victim as u r prescribing it .