Atheism the unscientific belief (part one, two, and three)

[Longhorn]

I don't think he lives in the same dimension as we do, mentally. He just argues with strawmen by reasserting what he believes, regardless of what his opponent actually said. I think he's delusional ._.

[robvalue]

It becomes very hard to separate people who are deluded as a result of a brain malfunction and need professional help, from people who spout religious/spiritual gibberish. It becomes kind of like a "spot the Poe".

Religion in particular has become a socially acceptable delusion, or at least professed delusion. How much of what people spout they actually believe is another thing entirely.

[Little Rik]

Time is a problem so i may only answer some posts tonight. 

[Longhorn]

Oh snap, the transdimensional rift is destabilizing! Forget the posts Rik, run before the portal's vortex rearranges your atoms into a lukewarm potpie!!

[Little Rik]

Energy and consciousness must always go hand in hand.
Energy is not blind.
Has got to follow certain direction and therefore there has got to be a consciousness that direct that energy.  

This is another unsupported assertion. Why is a consciousness necessary for energy to have a direction? Why do you postulate the existence of an entity (a consciousness) when all that is necessary to explain this phenomenon are the laws of physics?

Not at all Luc.
The laws of physics are related to the physical aspect which is energy.
Consciousness is not something physical and yet according to yoga goes hand in hand with energy so the physical laws lack half of the whole.
Energy without consciousness would and could not follow a direction so it would generate total chaos.
A mind is always required to make sure that chaos is not created.
In nature lower form of lives up to animals are driven by instinct so also in this case there is a force that make sure that chaos is not created.
Energy also follow directions.

Oh, and by the way, could you tell me what energy is? I want to see your definition of it.

According to the laws of physics energy....... is a property of objects which can be transferred to other objects or converted into different forms, but .......in yoga however first of all everything has energy not just objects but most of all energy is the cosmic consciousness (God) thought waves which created the universe so even the space, air, light, water beside the matter are compose of energy.
In this way the energy that create the space create the air and so on until the matter is created.
So where there is energy there is also consciousness.
One can not be separate from the other.
They all sprung out from God mind at the same time.   

[Little Rik]

You are making a hell of a confusion mate.
All your points are build on guessing and guessing alone.
Physical death is no evidence that YOU die.
First of all you should consider that body-brain and consciousness can be separate and will separate as soon as the parallelism between body and consciousness is over.

Unsupported claim. Please give evidence that consciousness is separate from the functions of the brain and can exist outside of it. (89th time we're asking you this)

First of all let me say that atheists pop up all the time saying that consciousness can not exist outside the brain.
Have they got any solid evidence to state so?
NO.
By not having any evidence at all they break their own rule that say that statements should always have evidence or else are sort of rubbish.
By me saying that consciousness can live outside the brain once the brain is dead i at least have thousand
of NDEs evidences.
Not only that but it make sense that when the vehicle rot away you are not bound to rot away as well.

If you go along with the theory that when the body die is all over then you may well think that when your car rot away you rot away as well.

This analogy falls flat on its face when you consider that I am demonstrably an entity separate from my car, while my consciousness (whatever that is anyway) is not in any way demonstrably separate from my body.

Your thought is very weak Luc.
Life is very short.
You are stuck inside a body.
In the same way your journey in a vehicle from point A to point B is also short.
You can get out from your vehicle during your journey so you can say that you are not stuck to your vehicle and therefore you are separate but by terminate your journey from point A to point B you defeat the purpose of going from point A to point B.
You can also put an end to your life by committing suicide and in this way you will defeat the purpose of advancing toward the goal of life so in this way you can say that you are a separate entity from your body or vehicle but it wouldn't make any sense after all.
The reality is that we are fully connected until death brake the parallelism between body-brain and consciousness.

This sort of believes belong to the stone age not to this age of knowledge.

Yeah, sure

Sure, sure Luc.  

My believes are based on results.
Suppose someone tell you......IF YOU DO SUCH A THING YOU WILL GET SUCH RESULT.
I did that thing and i got that result so i believe that by doing that thing the result will be as was indicated to me.

Sorry, but what did you do exactly? What results did you get and with what premises? The way you present your reasoning is not clear.

A lot of peace of mind but most of all vision about the road to follow.

Why i do not do the claim then?
Because the matter in question is not physical where the evidence must be physical.
Here we are in the real of spirituality and the evidence obviously is not physical.
Atheism is based on matter but matter has really nothing to do with something much
higher and more subtle.  

Atheism is the lack of belief in god(s). What you mean is probably materialism, but whatever, there are worse mistakes in your post here.
What is the realm of spirituality? How do you prove its existence? And why shouldn't physical evidence count when "energy", which affects all of the "physical realm" is supposedly "spiritual" in nature? If the spiritual interacts with the physical, shouldn't we be able to tell? If so, why? And if not, why bother with postulating something that can't be experienced at all (and whose  existence therefore doesn't mean anything)?

You presume that energy and consciousness can not go hand in hand but the evidence is quite clear.
You eat meat and you feel aggressive while if you eat vegetarian food you don't feel aggressive.
What this means other than indicate that the energy goes hand in hand with consciousness which in these two cases give different results.  

[Little Rik]

Life is full of doubts.
I don't know if i will be alive or not in the next few minutes.
A plane can fall on my house and kill me so i could not finish this post and you will never know
Little Rik answer.
Just imagine how sad would be.
I am sure you will cry for days on hand Whatever.
Would you? 

Not really.  I don't find death all that remarkable or sad.  More like inevitable.  You will cease to be but that won't be a calamity for you, you'll be beyond all suffering.  That which made you unique will disappear but that which makes you part of the dance of life can go on.  Composting does a body wonders.  Just choose a simple shroud instead of a concrete or metal box.  Invite life in so that you can get out.

I am still waiting for the atheist evidence that when the body die is all over.
But no worry mate.
I am a very patient person.
I still hope that before Christmas i will getting that evidence from you.
Eh, i mean 2015 Christmas not 3015. 

[Iroscato]

[ErGingerbreadMandude]

I am still waiting for the theist evidence that when the body die is all not over.
But no worry mate.
I am a very patient person.
I still hope that before Christmas i will getting that evidence from you.
Eh, i mean 2015 Christmas not 3015.  

[Iroscato]

Rik, how do you explain people who suffer brain damage, strokes, or have a lobotomy and are fundamentally changed by the damage to their brains? If we are more than just our brains, why is it that people who undergo such procedures often emerge as quite different people?