Atheism the unscientific belief (part one, two, and three)

[ErGingerbreadMandude]

I'll give the readers of this thread a summary of what exactly is going on here through an example.

Consider a subject such as History.
We are saying that History isn't science because well,it isn't.

History proper is too a science.

Management is also a science.
So is pooping.
So in Yoga.
So is moving chairs.I could be moving chairs all day and claim to be a scientist because what i'm doing can be explained using scientific methods,but that's a dumb categorization - that was my point.

[Cyberman]

Want me to get the green box out again, Rikky?

[Mudhammam]

History proper is too a science.

Management is also a science.
So is pooping.
So in Yoga.
So is moving chairs.I could be moving chairs all day and claim to be a scientist because what i'm doing can be explained using scientific methods,but that's a dumb categorization - that was my point.

I admittedly don't get your point - unless you're arguing that only the branch of physical sciences constitutes a legitimate definition of science - but that's just stupid.

[ErGingerbreadMandude]

Management is also a science.
So is pooping.
So in Yoga.
So is moving chairs.I could be moving chairs all day and claim to be a scientist because what i'm doing can be explained using scientific methods,but that's a dumb categorization - that was my point.

I admittedly don't get your point - unless you're arguing that only the branch of physical sciences constitutes a legitimate definition of science - but that's just stupid.

My point is that Rik is arguing that what he believes in is science because some of the things involved in what he believes in can be explained using scientific methods.

[Angrboda]

Some people think that Yoga means a particular exercise, No, no, no: Yoga does not mean exercise. Yoga means unification. It is the Supreme definition of Yoga.

There is common wont in each and every human mind and that wont differentiates human being from animals, people from plants. What is that difference? That spritual wont is called human Dharma. What is Dharma? Human beings want to expand, and secondly, they want to become one with the Cosmic Body. Thirdly they want to do something noble and the fourth thing is that they want peace, Supreme peace, undisturbed peace. These are the four special qualifications of human beings. Collectively you may say, it is the human mode.

Yoga is the path of progress, the path of development for each and every human being. Nobody can keep himself herself away or aloof from that track of Yoga. Yoga is Dharma. So in individual life we should practice Yoga, and in collective life we should encourage others to practice Yoga. It is the solution of all human ailments in the physicial stratum, in the psychic stratum and also in spiritual stratum.

Shrii P. R. Sarkar
12 September 1979, Haifa

[ErGingerbreadMandude]

We had a teacher that performs Yoga regularly come to our class.
He made us perform hyperventilation and something of that sort by making us breath heavily and frequently whilst lifting our hands up and down in a rigorous fashion.
He claimed to have cleansed our minds using this method in Yoga.
After this exercise everyone was feeling light headed(probably due to the lack of supply of Oxygen to brain) and everyone thought this was the equivalent of cleansing one's mind.

-_-

[IATIA]

... (probably due to the lack of supply of Oxygen to brain) ...

Actually, too much oxygen. Oxygen is basically poisonous. Small amounts are necessary, but large amounts can be deadly.

[robvalue]

[Redbeard The Pink]

You say....1100s.
I say 7000 years ago.
Sure, we are all guessing as evidence doesn't come easy after so long.
Look at the ayurvedic science just to mention one.
It is so old that nobody really knows how old it is.
Some say 5000 years old, other say 7000 and Shiva is the inventor.
And what about the 7 notes.
Also the music is a science and again according to the legend it was Shiva that gave them to humanity.

Ayurveda is a form of traditional (read: alternative) medicine, Rik. It is not science. When scientists got ahold of traditional medicinal practices, they tested them, and the stuff that worked became medicine, while everything else became horse shit. If Ayurveda is your evidence, nice try. Take another run at it.

Pinky, you haven't got the slightest clue about the meaning of philosophy so please refrain from using this word
until you make some progress in this field. 

Nice claim. Care to support it? When I called you out on not understanding the definition of science, I pretty well explained how you were wrong. Once again, my definition is:


Philosophy: the study (or one particular field of study) of ideas about knowledge, truth, and the nature and meaning of life


Explain how that definition is wrong or GTFO.

http://spokensanskrit.de/index.php?scrip...rection=ES

Ok, now which word are you referring to specifically? I see various words that are sometimes translated as "science," but in general it looks like those are also words for things like "wisdom," "arcane study," etc. This is reflective of the fact that old thought systems tended to conflate religion, philosophy, and science as being more or less the same thing. While some of those words might get translated as "science," a more representative and accurate translation would probably be "magic" in many of those cases.

Once again you haven't got the slightest clue about yoga and Hinduism
so please refrain from making guessing after guessing.
Yoga is pure spirituality while Hinduism is a religion.
Yoga came first and Hinduism follow but after so long pure spirituality changed 
and gave way to ritualism which in practice is worth next to nothing. 

Nice claim. Care to support it? Again, my (and also Google's) definition of yoga:


Yoga: a Hindu spiritual and ascetic discipline, a part of which, including breath control, simple meditation, and the adoption of specific bodily postures, is widely practiced for health and relaxation.


If my definition is so very and obviously wrong, you should have no trouble explaining how. Support your statements or fuck off.

[LastPoet]

And here I thought science was a kind of pancake. A delicious one at that. Damn, have I contracted the Chopra virus?