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Atheism the unscientific belief (part one, two, and three)
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  (March 27, 2016 at 8:02 am)Little Rik Wrote: One can not exist without the other. What is your proof that a quark or a string has consciousness? To me it seems that you are simply expressing an opinion based on your belief in a faerie tale.
You make people miserable and there's nothing they can do about it, just like god.
-- Homer Simpson God has no place within these walls, just as facts have no place within organized religion. -- Superintendent Chalmers Science is like a blabbermouth who ruins a movie by telling you how it ends. There are some things we don't want to know. Important things. -- Ned Flanders Once something's been approved by the government, it's no longer immoral. -- The Rev Lovejoy  (March 27, 2016 at 8:38 am)Little Rik Wrote:(March 27, 2016 at 8:05 am)robvalue Wrote: If I said I agreed with you now, would you even believe me? Why would I be upset? Why do you always have to play the cunt?
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
(March 27, 2016 at 10:20 am)IATIA Wrote:(March 27, 2016 at 8:02 am)Little Rik Wrote: One can not exist without the other. Nothing does not exist. If it would exist we wouldn't be here, nothing would be here. Nothing generate nothing so everything that exist come from somewhere. Energy and consciousness are everywhere no matter how small things are or what they are. Energy and consciousness can not be destroyed ever. They change and change but we can not get rid of them. The consciousness-energy in matter doesn't appear out of nothing It was there before it turned into matter. You can called these building block of energy-consciousness the way you like. It really doesn't matter. They surely carry consciousness. Matter is none but the creation that occurred after the change. 
 I know I've said this before, but you really seen to have a hard time grasping what words actually mean, Rik. Just because your sentence structure is correct, doesn't mean you aren't talking nonsense. Energy-consciousness isn't a thing in the sense that you're using it. It is a thing that you made up...unless you're talking about Chi, in which case it's something somebody else made up. 
Little Rik, I'm new to this thread, but your assertion that nothing does not exist is demonstrably false. There is the earth and the moon. In between there is a whole bunch of nothing. Just because nothingness exists does not mean that something cannot exist.
To the other people involved in this discussion, am I just banging my head against the wall here?
- The Mgt.
 (March 29, 2016 at 3:56 am)Pope Markoff Chaney Wrote: Little Rik, I'm new to this thread, but your assertion that nothing does not exist is demonstrably false. There is the earth and the moon. In between there is a whole bunch of nothing. Just because nothingness exists does not mean that something cannot exist. We all bang our heads against the wall when dealing with LR. I say dealing with him instead of debating him because you can't debate gibberish. Or word salad. Disclaimer: I am only responsible for what I say, not what you choose to understand.
(March 29, 2016 at 3:56 am)Pope Markoff Chaney Wrote: Little Rik, I'm new to this thread, but your assertion that nothing does not exist is demonstrably false. There is the earth and the moon. In between there is a whole bunch of nothing. Just because nothingness exists does not mean that something cannot exist. Welcome to this thread Pope. Unfortunately i got bad news for you. The space between here and there is something. 7 is a special number. According to yoga there is consciousness, mind, space, air, light, water and matter. All these 7 elements must be there for the universe to exist. Suppose you (your consciousness) start creating something in your (mind). You need a (space) to put this creation inside. In order for this creation to manifest it need (air), (light), (water) and (matter). This is how the system works but of course you are free to think that space is not needed. That is up to you so you may think that the creation is spaceless. In this case you will have to think of an alternative and suggest God to do without space. You never know Pope. The next time God create a universe he may pick up your tip and do without space.  To summarise space is a very important element. The universe just could not do without and an element like space is not nothing. On the contrary it is something very very important in the creation of this universe. Just imagine if there wouldn't be the space in between planets or stars. You could walk to the moon but of course this idea is bankrupt. Space is there, it exist so it is not nothing.
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