Theists, what does faith mean to you?

[TubbyTubby]

I can know a writing is beyond my own capability, despite being able to appreciate it's greatness. If this is true, why can't I know a writing is beyond all human capability just because I can appreciate it (to a degree)?

One of the appreciative qualities of the Quran, the more you study it and more you think about it, the more majestic it get's and people don't get bored of reading it. Whole new images of a Surah take in the heart the more keys are unlocked with reflection with respect to other parts of the Quran. There is an image within a image, and interior to an interior.

The same reason hordes of folk fall in love with the bible ffs Mystic, get another narrative please, it's boring.

Seriously, you come across like a fucking robot.

[Catholic_Lady]

I am immediately skeptical of something that cannot be shared.  If in one's mind sharing it means the story will be ridiculed and/or discounted, then the story obviously cannot hold on its own by any logical standard.

Personal simply means that one must illogically rely upon faith to believe it as real.

I'm not worried about myself being made fun of or ridiculed.

Since I know what happened was real, I don't want to expose something holy to ridicule. I don't want to "expose" it at all actually, even if it wasn't going to be made fun of.

[Whateverist]

Why is it that myself and perhaps most atheists here and those I know personally don't have supernatural experiences?

I've had hallucinogen assisted revelatory experiences which I would not at all be tempted to categorize as supernatural.  Mind expanding, point of view shifting and even sacred - yes.  But not anything other than extraordinarily natural, or so I assume.

[Tartarus Sauce]

I can know a writing is beyond my own capability, despite being able to appreciate it's greatness. If this is true, why can't I know a writing is beyond all human capability just because I can appreciate it (to a degree).

Because, as I said in my previous post, appreciation is not the determinating factor of possible authorship, capacity for thought is. If the idea can be communicated and comprehended by a human mind, it is possible for it to be thought about by a human mind. If a human mind can think about an idea, it is wholly within the realm of possibility that the idea was generated within a human mind.

Is there a single idea within the Quran that transcends our capacity for thought? You couldn't even point to it if there was one, it would be completely undetectable or incomprehensible to you. Every belief you've generated about Islam are from ideas you've pondered over with your own thoughts. You attached thoughts to these ideas because you understood them and crafted your own interpretations. Could you do that with an idea we as humans couldn't even comprehend?

Unless you're willing to argue for other criteria that can limit the capacity for human authorship, stating that it is impossible for a book full of ideas we can comprehend and think about to have originated from a human source is not only lacking in supporting evidence but is also a nonsensical and self-defeating proposition.