I wonder how they retain their faith when one of their own dies from a snake bite?
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Heard about this snake idiocy before
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   (July 29, 2015 at 2:50 pm)Nope Wrote: I wonder how they retain their faith when one of their own dies from a snake bite? Just because one person loses his faith and he dies from a snake bite, that does not mean that God is not real and does not protect those who sincerely believe. Mark 16: 16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned. 17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues; 18 They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover. 19 So then after the Lord had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God. There is no protection implied for those who do not believe. So if someone loses his belief, the snake may kill him, without contradicting Mark. Of course, some are inconsistent and just tell you the disbeliever is now with Jesus. (I say "disbeliever," because anyone can see from Mark that those who believe will not be harmed by snakes.) "A wise man ... proportions his belief to the evidence." — David Hume, An Enquiry Concerning Human Understanding, Section X, Part I.
Of course, "mark" 16 9-20 was a much later tag on to make that bullshit agree with the others which were then popular.
It could be that whoever wrote it was just making shit up.....much like the guy who wrote the prior 16 books and 8 verses. But, I won't complain. Love watching assholes die so stupidly. 
Candidate for the Darwin Award. But for some reasons they don't nominate people like that. One of their pastors snuffed it too one or two years ago without the world taking much notice.
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What I love about the snake handling nuts is that the entire practice has its own built-in No True Scotsman fallacy. If the idiot lives, that's evidence in such circles that he's a true believer (at least so far). If he dies, he wasn't a true Christian, and his death doesn't disconfirm the practice for those who remain.
It's brilliant in an utterly moronic way. 
Natural selection at work.
Dying to live, living to die.
 (July 29, 2015 at 5:59 pm)Beccs Wrote: Natural selection at work. Still, I have to ask; Why does it work in India ? What are our Christers doing wrong ? The granting of a pardon is an imputation of guilt, and the acceptance a confession of it.
(July 29, 2015 at 6:58 pm)vorlon13 Wrote:(July 29, 2015 at 5:59 pm)Beccs Wrote: Natural selection at work. They lack faith. Even they do not really believe what they claim to believe. They only sort of believe it, or half believe it, but they do not firmly believe it. Even the snake handlers in the U.S. don't believe the words in Mark, as they do not drink poison. Also, some people in India do die from snake bites, so it isn't that everyone in India is immune to snakes. And some snake charmers "cheat" by defanging the snakes, stitching their mouths partially closed, etc.: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snake_charming What we are really discussing is people putting on a show. "A wise man ... proportions his belief to the evidence." — David Hume, An Enquiry Concerning Human Understanding, Section X, Part I.
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