Why Christianity?

[Randy Carson]

And what would you say to a Jewish friend who was intrigued by some of the arguments made by atheists and beginning to have doubts about G-d?

Have you ever lived outside the south east of the United States?

In the world in which I grew up and was educated, being an atheist was - and is - quite normal but we're all, theists and atheists, a minority in comparison with the can't be bothered.  On the whole, I dislike most those people who really, really know what the answer to everything is, whatever their religion or lack of it.

You also need to get it into your head that other religions do not have the same concept of the divine and don't work in the same way as Christianity, which is one of the reasons why many of your questions are often rather meaningless.  In other words, in order for an answer to have meaning, you'd need to have at least some understanding of the context - something you'll never be bothered to try to get - so answering usually seems rather pointless, especially since it will only be drowned by your copy and pasting or something from your really rather dreadful collection of clip art.

Thus I've kept telling you that Judaism isn't Christianity minus Jesus and Christianity isn't Judaism plus Jesus. God is not as portrayed on the Sistine Chapel roof or a nice young Aryan man with a decorated heart on his chest and an arm around a lamb.  One might describe our understanding of God as an argument that's gone on and on and on and on - on the one hand, while on the other hand, meanwhile on yet another hand . . . . .

So, what would I say to my friend?  I'd start by asking what was wrong with continuing the development of her understanding of how to live a considered/examined life from within the context she'd been brought up in.

Is that the essence of modern European Judaism, Kaninchen? Have G-d's chosen people, the heirs to Moses and the prophets, really been reduced to understanding "how to live a considered/examined life"?

Please tell me that there are still some Jews who take their faith seriously and that you're just speaking from your own apatheistic perspective.

[Randy Carson]

Not really, Steve.

If you ever decide to take off your atheist glasses and look at the evidence objectively, you'll see that it is substantial.

And there you go again. I asked you politely this time; I may even ask politely a second. After that I get to tell you to fuck off with your condescension. Deal?

With that out of the way, what part of what I said is not really?

"So basically arguments from ignorance, with mythology shoehorned in."

Christianity's arguments are far more substantial than that, and you know this. Thus, you mock and dismiss them rather than actually addressing them.

[Cyberman]

I am allergic to red herring. Xtianity's arguments may be, but yours haven't been so far.

[Whateverist]

Please tell me that there are still some Jews who take their faith seriously and that you're just speaking from your own apatheistic perspective.

What a guy. Not just a moral renegade but a real rat-bastard kind of guy. This Christianity must be some really toxic shit.












Oh, my bolding of course.

[Jenny A]

[Kaninchen]

Is that the essence of modern European Judaism, Kaninchen? Have G-d's chosen people, the heirs to Moses and the prophets, really been reduced to understanding "how to live a considered/examined life"?

Please tell me that there are still some Jews who take their faith seriously and that you're just speaking from your own apatheistic perspective.

That will teach me to wonder if Randy Carson can really be as bad as I perceive him to be.

As I said, in order for an answer to have meaning, you'd have to understand the context which is something you're incapable of doing - I used to think it was just laziness, by the way, but it isn't.  Of course, it would probably have helped if you'd understood what a 'considered/examined life' meant but, obviously, even that's beyond you.

Judaism, Randy, has never been Christianity minus Jesus - it wasn't 2000 years ago and isn't now.

[Randy Carson]

Is that the essence of modern European Judaism, Kaninchen? Have G-d's chosen people, the heirs to Moses and the prophets, really been reduced to understanding "how to live a considered/examined life"?

Please tell me that there are still some Jews who take their faith seriously and that you're just speaking from your own apatheistic perspective.

That will teach me to wonder if Randy Carson can really be as bad as I perceive him to be.

As I said, in order for an answer to have meaning, you'd have to understand the context which is something you're incapable of doing - I used to think it was just laziness, by the way, but it isn't.  Of course, it would probably have helped if you'd understood what a 'considered/examined life' meant but, obviously, even that's beyond you.

Judaism, Randy, has never been Christianity minus Jesus - it wasn't 2000 years ago and isn't now.

I knew that before you repeated this over and over and over. But thank you for your constant attention to my posts.

Does God exist, Kaninchen?

[rexbeccarox]

[Whateverist]

How's the thread over at CAF going for you, Randy?

... not that it matters, plagiarism is against the rules as it should be. I just find it funny: the people who have replied are too nice to you to say it, but they think your plagiarism is as intellectually dishonest as we do.

I liked this one:

"Do not email the plagiarized passage.

Think of the damage it will do to your yourself and especially to your friend when your friend does a search and finds that you are being a phoney and lying to them."

[Longhorn]

How's the thread over at CAF going for you, Randy?

Oh crap! Even the suggestive phrasing didn't dupe them enough to take to lying and stealing! Priceless! I bet little baby Jesus is shaking his head now, Randy