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RE: Why Christianity?
August 22, 2015 at 6:12 pm
(August 22, 2015 at 6:11 pm)Kaninchen Wrote: (August 22, 2015 at 6:08 pm)Randy Carson Wrote: So predictable. I almost edited my post for that very reason, but I decided to see if you would take the bait.
So, now you're both predictable and boring.
This is not the Kaninchen of old. What's got you off your game?
Oh, Randy, I'm sorry but you don't get to determine anything at all.
Does God exist, Kaninchen?
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RE: Why Christianity?
August 22, 2015 at 6:15 pm
(August 22, 2015 at 6:12 pm)Randy Carson Wrote: (August 22, 2015 at 6:11 pm)Kaninchen Wrote: Oh, Randy, I'm sorry but you don't get to determine anything at all.
Does God exist, Kaninchen?
As I said, from your responses, you're patently not bright enough to understand the answer to that question.
The gods did not reveal, from the beginning,
All things to us, but in the course of time
Through seeking we may learn and know things better.
These things are, we conjecture, like the truth.
But as for certain truth, no man has known it,
Nor shall he know it, neither of the gods
Nor yet of all the things of which I speak.
And even if by chance he were to utter
The final truth, he would himself not know it:
For all is but a woven web of guesses.
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RE: Why Christianity?
August 22, 2015 at 6:28 pm
(August 22, 2015 at 6:15 pm)Kaninchen Wrote: (August 22, 2015 at 6:12 pm)Randy Carson Wrote: Does God exist, Kaninchen?
As I said, from your responses, you're patently not bright enough to understand the answer to that question. Ineffability is not a word in the apologist's vocabulary.
It is very important not to mistake hemlock for parsley, but to believe or not believe in God is not important at all. - Denis Diderot
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RE: Why Christianity?
August 22, 2015 at 6:31 pm
(August 22, 2015 at 6:28 pm)Pizza Wrote: (August 22, 2015 at 6:15 pm)Kaninchen Wrote: As I said, from your responses, you're patently not bright enough to understand the answer to that question. Ineffability is not a word in the apologist's vocabulary.
With Randy, it's that it's not in the sales materials.
If he hasn't got the particular leaflet for that feature, forget it.
The gods did not reveal, from the beginning,
All things to us, but in the course of time
Through seeking we may learn and know things better.
These things are, we conjecture, like the truth.
But as for certain truth, no man has known it,
Nor shall he know it, neither of the gods
Nor yet of all the things of which I speak.
And even if by chance he were to utter
The final truth, he would himself not know it:
For all is but a woven web of guesses.
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RE: Why Christianity?
August 22, 2015 at 6:35 pm
(August 21, 2015 at 8:08 pm)Pizza Wrote: Huggy74 is quoting the NT(Acts) at a Jew. LOL! 
What do you think Paul was?
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RE: Why Christianity?
August 22, 2015 at 6:36 pm
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(August 22, 2015 at 5:25 pm)Kaninchen Wrote: In Randy's mind (he said it on CAF) he's been shooting fish in a barrel here for weeks.
Yes, he's the one thing I really despise in life: Arrogant ignorance. Breast pounding is part of the deal. Doesn't come unexpected. I take GC and all the other theists coming here over him any time, since they're at least honest, consistent and most of all human in what they believe. But Randy wasn't able to formulate one single original thought since he came here.
(August 22, 2015 at 6:35 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: What do you think Paul was?
And what credit does than lend to your claims exactly?
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RE: Cotton candy apologetics
August 22, 2015 at 6:50 pm
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RE: Why Christianity?
August 22, 2015 at 7:45 pm
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(August 21, 2015 at 8:11 pm)Kitan Wrote: The Torah specifically states that the savior was to be a warrior. The Jesus of the Christian religion was no such warrior, for he was the equivalent of the modern day pacifist hippy. Therefore, according to Judaism, Jesus Christ was not the son of god.
You realize that Jesus appears more than once right? His first coming was as a savior, his second coming is as a warrior during the battle of Armageddon
Quote:Revelation 16
12 And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared.
13 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.
14 For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.
15 Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.
16 And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon.
Quote:Revelation 19
11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.
12 His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself.
13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.
14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.
15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.
16 And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, King Of Kings, And Lord Of Lords.
17 And I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the fowls that fly in the midst of heaven, Come and gather yourselves together unto the supper of the great God;
18 That ye may eat the flesh of kings, and the flesh of captains, and the flesh of mighty men, and the flesh of horses, and of them that sit on them, and the flesh of all men, both free and bond, both small and great.
19 And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army.
20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.
21 And the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse, which sword proceeded out of his mouth: and all the fowls were filled with their flesh.
And just in case you want to claim that's irrelevant because it's from the new testament, I'll include one from the old testament also
Quote:Zechariah 12
8 In that day shall the Lord defend the inhabitants of Jerusalem; and he that is feeble among them at that day shall be as David; and the house of David shall be as God, as the angel of the Lord before them.
9 And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem.
10 And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn.
11 In that day shall there be a great mourning in Jerusalem, as the mourning of Hadadrimmon in the valley of Megiddon.
12 And the land shall mourn, every family apart; the family of the house of David apart, and their wives apart; the family of the house of Nathan apart, and their wives apart;
13 The family of the house of Levi apart, and their wives apart; the family of Shimei apart, and their wives apart;
14 All the families that remain, every family apart, and their wives apart.
Note the part where it says "and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced", and ask yourself this, why is God talking about being "pierced"? So who is really talking here? Also when the "Inhabitants of Jerusalem" (read: Jews) find out "whom they have peirced" they mourn "as one mourneth for his only son", Why? Apply some of that critical thinking...
(August 22, 2015 at 5:10 pm)Kaninchen Wrote: Goodness, I thought you Christians thought that Jesus was a God.
Meanwhile, Judaism isn't just not Christianity minus Jesus, it isn't what Christians would like it to be in order to explain Christianity, either. Jesus referred to himself as "son of man", are you telling me that you, being Jewish, don't realize that "son of man" is another term for prophet?
Quote:Ezekiel 33
1 Again the word of the Lord came unto me, saying,
2 Son of man, speak to the children of thy people, and say unto them, When I bring the sword upon a land, if the people of the land take a man of their coasts, and set him for their watchman:
(August 22, 2015 at 6:36 pm)abaris Wrote: And what credit does than lend to your claims exactly? I wasn't making any claims, I was making a point.
(August 21, 2015 at 8:08 pm)Pizza Wrote: Huggy74 is quoting the NT(Acts) at a Jew. LOL!  The point was, that statement makes no sense, seeing how the most prominent writer of the new testament was a Jew.
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RE: Why Christianity?
August 22, 2015 at 8:58 pm
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RE: Why Christianity?
August 22, 2015 at 9:23 pm
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