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Help Extradite Another Scumbag Hunter
#11
RE: Help Extradite Another Scumbag Hunter
All the big critters are doomed. Human population growth will crowd out everything else.
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#12
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(August 4, 2015 at 5:47 pm)vorlon13 Wrote: All the big critters are doomed.  Human population growth will crowd out everything else.

I don't think the forecast is that gloomy. Animal preservation has become a big thing around the world. I have a feeling that birth control will spread in Africa eventually also. The birth rate in many western nations has already fallen below the replacement level, so much that is become an economic problem in itself.
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#13
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As a Penal/Criminal Law aficionado, I generally agree with the principle that national citizens shouldn't be extradited (Unless it's an international punishable illegal activity according to international Law and ought to be prosecuted and tried on an international court) and people should be tried in their country of origin. So yeah, I agree with this. I'm not against hunting, but the Law is the law, and endangered species ought to be protected.
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(August 4, 2015 at 5:40 pm)Lek Wrote: It would be nice to preserve the lion population, although I don't know exactly why they are any worthier of preservation than the other millions of species that have gone extinct over time, that nobody cares about.  I say extradite this guy if he broke the law, as long there is assurance that he will get a fair penalty for the offense.  With all the publicity and outrage over this, I'm afraid that they would try to make an example of him and hang him by his thumbs in the public square or something.  This thing has been been blown totally out of proportion.

These guys are the scum of the earth, since they're killing living beings for fun, for a dubious challenge and for a trophy. Killing is their kind of enjoyment, probably because the have men troubles in the nether regions. They show a general disregard for life and the fact they haven't moved on to humans because society prevents them from doing so, doesn't make them any less despicable.

There are responsible hunters. The ones who hunt to eat and to regulate animal populations. These rich fucks paying a fortune to take a life don't fall into the responsible category.
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(August 4, 2015 at 6:09 pm)abaris Wrote:
(August 4, 2015 at 5:40 pm)Lek Wrote: It would be nice to preserve the lion population, although I don't know exactly why they are any worthier of preservation than the other millions of species that have gone extinct over time, that nobody cares about.  I say extradite this guy if he broke the law, as long there is assurance that he will get a fair penalty for the offense.  With all the publicity and outrage over this, I'm afraid that they would try to make an example of him and hang him by his thumbs in the public square or something.  This thing has been been blown totally out of proportion.

These guys are the scum of the earth, since they're killing living beings for fun, for a dubious challenge and for a trophy. Killing is their kind of enjoyment, probably because the have men troubles in the nether regions. They show a general disregard for life and the fact they haven't moved on to humans because society prevents them from doing so, doesn't make them any less despicable.

There are responsible hunters. The ones who hunt to eat and to regulate animal populations. These rich fucks paying a fortune to take a life don't fall into the responsible category.
I think the killing of both humans and other animals is a natural act and the only reason we forbid the killing of our own species is because of the implications it has and the adverse reactions like revenge and emotional suffering. I do agree that it sounds disturbing to kill animals for fun, but I sometimes feel people only stand up for furry nice animals but have no problem ignoring the killing of a scorpion, a rare bee species or a some other scary beast.
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(August 4, 2015 at 6:14 pm)Dystopia Wrote: I do agree that it sounds disturbing to kill animals for fun, but I sometimes feel people only stand up for furry nice animals but have no problem ignoring the killing of a scorpion, a rare bee species or a some other scary beast.

I'm standing up against killing without valid reason. And that goes for every species. I loathe people who get their rocks off on taking a life.
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#17
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(August 4, 2015 at 6:17 pm)abaris Wrote:
(August 4, 2015 at 6:14 pm)Dystopia Wrote: I do agree that it sounds disturbing to kill animals for fun, but I sometimes feel people only stand up for furry nice animals but have no problem ignoring the killing of a scorpion, a rare bee species or a some other scary beast.

I'm standing up against killing without valid reason. And that goes for every species. I loathe people who get their rocks off on taking a life.

I agree. Would you be ok with someone who owns exotic or wild pets (like snakes) feeding live prey like mice?
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(August 4, 2015 at 6:19 pm)Dystopia Wrote: I agree. Would you be ok with someone who owns exotic or wild pets (like snakes) feeding live prey like mice?

I'm not OK with someone owning exotic animals at all, since they aren't pets and are better off in a natural or at least controlled environment such as a good zoo provides. But I'm OK with feeding them life animals, since such is the way of life. Eat and be eaten.

I said I'm against killing without valid reason. Eating is a valid reason as is self defense or regulating an animal population. Just to give one example, just the other day I went to great lengths to capture a hornet in my bedroom and setting it free on the outside. It would have been easier to just spray it, but that's not me.

I'm against killing for so called sports.
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#19
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(August 4, 2015 at 6:26 pm)abaris Wrote:
(August 4, 2015 at 6:19 pm)Dystopia Wrote: I agree. Would you be ok with someone who owns exotic or wild pets (like snakes) feeding live prey like mice?

I'm not OK with someone owning exotic animals at all, since they aren't pets and are better off in a natural or at least controlled environment such as a good zoo provides. But I'm OK with feeding them life animals, since such is the way of life. Eat and be eaten.

I said I'm against killing without valid reason. Eating is a valid reason as is self defense or regulating an animal population. Just to give one example, just the other day I went to great lengths to capture a hornet in my bedroom and setting it free on the outside. It would have been easier to just spray it, but that's not me.

I'm against killing for so called sports.
Pet is any animal you own as your property. Domestic animals are pets, and so are exotic/wild ones, whichever the reason or the goal of having them, provided you don't break the law and abuse animals. You probably know this, but careful experienced owners usually buy/acquire proper gear to simulate the natural environment and provide comfort to exotic pets, it's not like people are buying snakes and tarantulas because it's cool. I think it's a valid reason to protect your property and physical well being. Bees, hornets and wasps sting, it is natural to kill them if they break inside your house. My garden has lots of bees and I'm ok with it, they usually just go near flowers and I ignore them, but I wouldn't hassle myself with trying to capture one inside my room, considering I don't have any experience in doing so, I'd just kill it with my hand or something like that.
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You can technically make a pet out of any animal you want to, but that doesn't mean they should be pets.

Some animals truly are wild, and have not adapted to life alongside humans. Dogs, and to a lesser extent, small cats have adapted to thrive on life alongside humans, through thousands of years of sustained contact and domestication, and therefore make amazing pets. That's not the case for a lot of other animals and it's just stupidity taking some things as pets, like snakes, large wild cats, spiders, etc.

This one (typical) white woman thought it was cute that her "pet" python was lying next to her in bed... what she didn't realise was that snake wasn't lying next to her for comfort, it was sizing her up for a big meal. These "wild" animals probably couldn't care less about whether you'll still own them tomorrow and would survive better out in the wild, and if they are predatory they are a great danger to the owner (especially if the owner has small children). There's also some potential ethical issues about keeping animals locked up in tanks which are too small for them.

I'm also against killing for sports, killing purely for skin/fur apart from when it's life or death, destructive genetic and hormonal manipulation of animals, and any "religious practice" of animal slaughter, like Halal, that is inhumane by modern standards.
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