Why is Faith/Belief a Moral Issue?

[orangebox21]

So why should I be interested in US statistics? I'm not American and things look very different in most parts of Europe. I'm aware that the US is about the only Western country where religion still plays as large a role. I'm glad to live in a society where it doesn't.

Because it is "the moral consensus of the particular society I'm living in" and is therefore moral.  If you judge it to be immoral you do so inconsistent with your own standard of morality, namely moral relativism.

[Whateverist]

I do not write these words lightly and I must point out. That we Christians too, "were dead in your trespasses and sins, 2in which you formerly walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, of the spirit that is now working in the sons of disobedience. 3Among them we too all formerly lived in the lusts of our flesh, indulging the desires of the flesh and of the mind, and were by nature children of wrath, even as the rest. 4But God, being rich in mercy, because of His great love with which He loved us, 5even when we were dead in our transgressions, made us alive together with Christ (by grace you have been saved), 6and raised us up with Him, and seated us with Him in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus (Ephesians 2:1-4)  The only difference is the blood of Christ shed for me, and if you want, shed for you.

Very definitely no thank you. I have no desire to benefit by the blood sacrifice of another human being. But you go ahead and grab al the mana you like. Too bad you're not Catholic so could eat of his flesh and drink of his blood every Sunday.

So long as "sins" are offenses against God and I don't have any gods, there really isn't any need to gut anyone on my account. I suppose the great advance of Christianity is how there is no longer any need to rip the beating hearts of victims from their chests to appease any gods as the Aztecs might have done. Very clever of the Christians to evolve a belief system which preserved the blood magic for all time without the need of new victims. You must feel very modern.

[abaris]

Because it is "the moral consensus of the particular society I'm living in" and is therefore moral.  If you judge it to be immoral you do so inconsistent with your own standard of morality, namely moral relativism.

No, it isn't. And no, I don't look the particular US statistics up for you. That's your job, but if you do, you will be surprised how the majority of Americans really think on social issues.

Since it's that easy to find. Here's a recent one from Gallup.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/183413/americ...ssues.aspx

I'd really love it, if some of you did their homework before posting random claims without any base in reality.

[LostLocke]

So why should I be interested in US statistics? I'm not American and things look very different in most parts of Europe. I'm aware that the US is about the only Western country where religion still plays as large a role. I'm glad to live in a society where it doesn't.

Because it is "the moral consensus of the particular society I'm living in" and is therefore moral.  If you judge it to be immoral you do so inconsistent with your own standard of morality, namely moral relativism.

[orangebox21]

Because it is "the moral consensus of the particular society I'm living in" and is therefore moral.  If you judge it to be immoral you do so inconsistent with your own standard of morality, namely moral relativism.

No, it isn't. And no, I don't look the particular US statistics up for you. That's your job, but if you do, you will be surprised how the majority of Americans really think on social issues.

Since it's that easy to find. Here's a recent one from Gallup.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/183413/americ...ssues.aspx

I'd really love it, if some of you did their homework before posting random claims without any base in reality.

Do you agree that the statistics I provided illustrate that the major religion of the United States is Christianity?

[abaris]

Do you agree that the statistics I provided illustrate that the major religion of the United States is Christianity?

So? Not every christian is a christian hawk, as the Gallup poll shows. I never claimed them to be.

So yes, I agree, the majority is christian. That was never up for debate, as my first post on the matter showed. Where I said, I'm aware of the fact. The better question however would be, if you agree that the Gallup poll shows that Americans aren't as hardcore christian moralistic as you would like them to be?

[orangebox21]

Do you agree that the statistics I provided illustrate that the major religion of the United States is Christianity?

So? Not every christian is a christian hawk, as the Gallup poll shows. I never claimed them to be.

So yes, I agree, the majority is christian. That was never up for debate, as my first post on the matter showed. Where I said, I'm aware of the fact. The better question however would be, if you agree that the Gallup poll shows that Americans aren't as hardcore christian moralistic as you would like them to be?

Then why did you lie and say that I was "posting random claims without any base in reality?"

[abaris]

Then why did you lie and say that I was "posting random claims without any base in reality?"

Wasn't lying. You simply don't understand or don't want to understand what I'm saying. You're claim is, American is christian, therefore undiluted christian biblical morality. Baseless, as the Gallup poll clearly shows. Hence my advice to do your homework before posting.

But it seems you haven't even read it. Unsurprisingly so.

[Whateverist]

So? Not every christian is a christian hawk, as the Gallup poll shows. I never claimed them to be.

So yes, I agree, the majority is christian. That was never up for debate, as my first post on the matter showed. Where I said, I'm aware of the fact. The better question however would be, if you agree that the Gallup poll shows that Americans aren't as hardcore christian moralistic as you would like them to be?

Then why did you lie and say that I was "posting random claims without any base in reality?"

You know the answer to this one.  Must have been the Great Deceiver.

[Rhondazvous]

So why should I be interested in US statistics? I'm not American and things look very different in most parts of Europe. I'm aware that the US is about the only Western country where religion still plays as large a role. I'm glad to live in a society where it doesn't.

If the Dominionists take over in the states, will you guys take me in? Please! I'll be good. I have marketable skills.