Fact, every single german nazi was a christian

[sinnerdaniel94]

Question for the atheists:
Assuming you take the stance that objective morality does not exist -- in other words, morality is subjective -- what was wrong with Hitler's actions?
I don't see how you can say Hitler was wrong, since it is your opinion against Hitler's.

Hitler was wrong because he lost.

Had he won there would be statues of him all over Europe and the church would have made him a saint. 

Time to grow up, laddie.

So morality is on a win lose basis according to you. Why don't you go jump someone and win yourself some money? You don't make sense to me.

[abaris]

This thread is suggesting that Hitler did something wrong, is it not?

Well, curious, isn't it? A forum search could tell you more.

But I guess that's demanding too much of an effort on your part.

[sinnerdaniel94]

They are different in almost every aspect.

You mean Protestants and Catholics are different. Well, no shit! Thanks for the remedial history lesson. I'm an atheist and give less than a shit about your Christian intra-family squabble. Why don't you take it up with the Catholics? We have a few here, and I'm sure they'd be happy to present their side. Then you can No-True-Scotsman them to your heart's content.

I care about distinguishing them because then people get confused. People like you who use the terms synonymously hurts the discussion.

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This thread is suggesting that Hitler did something wrong, is it not?

Well, curious, isn't it? A forum search could tell you more.

But I guess that's demanding too much of an effort on your part.

Don't you know what you believe in? can you explain it to me in a very basic way so all people can understand.

[Crossless2.0]

You mean Protestants and Catholics are different. Well, no shit! Thanks for the remedial history lesson. I'm an atheist and give less than a shit about your Christian intra-family squabble. Why don't you take it up with the Catholics? We have a few here, and I'm sure they'd be happy to present their side. Then you can No-True-Scotsman them to your heart's content.

I care about distinguishing them because then people get confused. People like you who use the terms synonymously hurts the discussion.

So you don't understand that sets/subsets aren't really the same as synonyms. Noted.

And Catholics aren't Christians . . . except for that Jesus Christ thing that you conveniently overlook. Or are you one of those dolts who think "Christ" was part of the guy's name? The only people who refer to Jesus as Christ and mean it are Christians.

[Thumpalumpacus]

You haven't linked to any in this discussion that I've seen that support your claim that he attended a Catholic monastery. That's because there is none, because he never did it, and in order to cover that lack of source material up, you've resorted to personal attacks.

That's bullshit, You didn't look at the links I posted, but here it is in video.





try watching the entire thing, oh and I just said your a Christian posing as an atheist, but I can see why you might consider that a personal attack, I apologize (even though is still think its true)

First off, take your passive-aggressive apology and fuck off.

Secondly, I looked at your linked quotes. None of them supported your claim. I cannot watch your video as I am on my phone, but I'll be deeply surprised if it provides a reputable source asserting that Hitler went to a Catholic monastery after being orphaned. He lived in a flophouse and on the streets of Vienna. Go read Toland or Shirer, difficult though that may be given your demonstrated incomprehension here.

[abaris]

Don't you know what you believe in? can you explain it to me in a very basic way so all people can understand.

I don't like to repeat myself. Do a search and you will find all I have to say on the matter.

[Thumpalumpacus]

Question for the atheists:
Assuming you take the stance that objective morality does not exist -- in other words, morality is subjective -- what was wrong with Hitler's actions?
I don't see how you can say Hitler was wrong, since it is your opinion against Hitler's.

It might have something to do with inflicting your will upon another to their detriment or death with no larger good being attained.

Just a thought.

[sinnerdaniel94]

I care about distinguishing them because then people get confused. People like you who use the terms synonymously hurts the discussion.

So you don't understand that sets/subsets aren't really the same as synonyms. Noted.

And Catholics aren't Christians . . . except for that Jesus Christ thing that you conveniently overlook. Or are you one of those dolts who think "Christ" was part of the guy's name? The only people who refer to Jesus as Christ and mean it are Christians.

It's possible to claim a different Christ than the Jesus talked about in the bible. They don't agree with his origins, what He did, or what He said, so to me they made up a Jesus to fit their religion.

[rexbeccarox]

Tell you what, Daniel: why don't you ask a Catholic whether he or she is a Christian? I guarantee they'll say "yes".

[Crossless2.0]

So you don't understand that sets/subsets aren't really the same as synonyms. Noted.

And Catholics aren't Christians . . . except for that Jesus Christ thing that you conveniently overlook. Or are you one of those dolts who think "Christ" was part of the guy's name? The only people who refer to Jesus as Christ and mean it are Christians.

It's possible to claim a different Christ than the Jesus talked about in the bible. They don't agree with his origins, what He did, or what He said, so to me they made up a Jesus to fit their religion.

Assuming you leave out of account the Gospels that didn't make the cut and get into the Bible, then what you are left with are the four Gospels in your holy book, the same four Gospels that Catholics and Protestants read. Those four books are all there is of what Jesus allegedly said and did. So yeah . . . Catholics believe a lot of the same bullshit you do: virgin birth, various miracles, resurrection, etc. Like I said: intra-family squabble.

And don't forget that while you claim they aren't "true" Christians, from their vantage point, you're just a heretic.