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RE: STUDY: Want ‘sustained happiness’? Get religion.
August 17, 2015 at 8:55 pm
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(August 17, 2015 at 8:50 pm)Godschild Wrote: It's in all the propaganda and apparently the propaganda and the deceptive wording is working on some.
GC
Concrete examples, pretty please. So we can have a proper discussion on how it's propaganda. Can't be that you don't have any evidence for it being propaganda, or can it?
By the way, still waiting for Randy's explanation of the word MAY in the study he quoted.
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RE: STUDY: Want ‘sustained happiness’? Get religion.
August 17, 2015 at 9:15 pm
(August 16, 2015 at 12:24 pm)Pyrrho Wrote: (August 16, 2015 at 12:18 pm)Randy Carson Wrote: Yeah, that worked wonders for Jim Morrison, Jimi Hendrix, Janis Joplin, Dee Dee Ramone, Kurt Cobain...
Being dead sure beats sitting on a church pew listening to interminably boring sermons.
I didn't realize there was a difference.
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RE: STUDY: Want ‘sustained happiness’? Get religion.
August 17, 2015 at 9:41 pm
(August 17, 2015 at 8:49 pm)Godschild Wrote: (August 17, 2015 at 5:34 pm)Redbeard The Pink Wrote: Established scientific facts don't require propaganda.
That's why evolution has so much propaganda devoted to it, and words like may, could be, if, might be and ect.
GC
Ok. First off, I'm gonna go ahead and presume that you're one of those people who conflates "Evolution" with "The Theory of Evolution."
Evolution is the process by which living organisms change over generations, and it is a scientific fact. There is no may, might, or maybe about evolution. That shit happens, and we have evidence that it happens. We have more evidence to support evolution than we do to support gravity, and we actually understand evolution a lot better than we understand gravity, incidentally.
The Theory of Evolution is the body of scientific knowledge laid out in efforts to explain how and why evolution happens and what course it may have taken throughout natural history, and this is the area where you're likely to run into imprecise language, reason being that science generally deals in degrees of certainty rather than absolute certainty, allowing the fact that new evidence could always adjust and even negate current knowledge on a subject. Religion, on the other hand, decides in advance what's true and seeks to bend/ignore evidence to support the presupposition. This is why science delivers while religion prays and quivers.
Verbatim from the mouth of Jesus (retranslated from a retranslation of a copy of a copy):
"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you too will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. How can you see your brother's head up his ass when your own vision is darkened by your head being even further up your ass? How can you say to your brother, 'Get your head out of your ass,' when all the time your head is up your own ass? You hypocrite! First take your head out of your own ass, and then you will see clearly who has his head up his ass and who doesn't." Matthew 7:1-5 (also Luke 6: 41-42)
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RE: STUDY: Want ‘sustained happiness’? Get religion.
August 20, 2015 at 9:35 pm
(August 17, 2015 at 9:41 pm)Redbeard The Pink Wrote: (August 17, 2015 at 8:49 pm)Godschild Wrote: That's why evolution has so much propaganda devoted to it, and words like may, could be, if, might be and ect.
GC
Ok. First off, I'm gonna go ahead and presume that you're one of those people who conflates "Evolution" with "The Theory of Evolution."
Nope. He's one of those that wallows in self-delusion and willful ignorance when the topic comes up.
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RE: STUDY: Want ‘sustained happiness’? Get religion.
August 20, 2015 at 9:39 pm
I get my sustainable happiness from helping others.
I've spent time volunteering on behalf of Doctors Without Borders - Something I'm intending to do again next year.
I won't go into details of where, what I did.
I'll just say that it was the roughest and most satisfying thing I've ever done.
Except when my phone was stolen.
Playing Cluedo with my mum while I was at Uni:
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RE: STUDY: Want ‘sustained happiness’? Get religion.
August 20, 2015 at 9:40 pm
Joining a religion will also drastically increase the risk of taking it in the ass in a rectory. I think I'll pass.
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RE: STUDY: Want ‘sustained happiness’? Get religion.
August 20, 2015 at 9:44 pm
(August 20, 2015 at 9:40 pm)Cato Wrote: Joining a religion will also drastically increase the risk of taking it in the ass in a rectory. I think I'll pass.
Vorlon!
NO!!
It's a trap!
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August 20, 2015 at 10:25 pm
Will sun worship work? Because Carlin makes a strong case.
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RE: STUDY: Want ‘sustained happiness’? Get religion.
August 21, 2015 at 1:02 am
(August 20, 2015 at 9:40 pm)Cato Wrote: Joining a religion will also drastically increase the risk of taking it in the ass in a rectory. I think I'll pass.
Not you, your too old. Its your kids that will take it up the ass.
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
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RE: STUDY: Want ‘sustained happiness’? Get religion.
August 21, 2015 at 2:42 am
(August 17, 2015 at 9:41 pm)Redbeard The Pink Wrote: Evolution is the process by which living organisms change over generations, and it is a scientific fact.
Incorrect, the process itself (the "how") is not understood and it's disputed as to what that process is. What you are describing as "scientific fact" isn't the how but the end result. The end result of evolution is not disputed - i.e. there exists a process, about which there is much dispute, and the result is that living organisms change and develop into new species over time.
For Religion & Health see:[/b][/size] Williams & Sternthal. (2007). Spirituality, religion and health: Evidence and research directions. Med. J. Aust., 186(10), S47-S50. -LINK
The WIN/Gallup End of Year Survey 2013 found the US was perceived to be the greatest threat to world peace by a huge margin, with 24% of respondents fearful of the US followed by: 8% for Pakistan, and 6% for China. This was followed by 5% each for: Afghanistan, Iran, Israel, North Korea. -LINK
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