Not all Muslims are Terrorists!

[Mister Agenda]

There seems to be a high correlation of entire demographics being under suspicion for the actions of a few when the demographic is mainly non-European in ethnicity. White Christians can kill a roomful of black people or blow up an abortion clinic or shoot up schools without calls to profile whites or Christians.

Guess you've never heard the term "redneck" then, and are completely oblivious to the connotations that has.

But let's carry on pretending like this is a race issue and that people are unfairly critical of Islam.

Do you base your presumption of my lack of awareness of the connotations of the word 'redneck' on my living in South Carolina? Is one of the connotations that rednecks are assassins or mass shooters or terrorists? If not, what relevancy does it have to my statement?

It's not just a race issue, but race is in there. Especially among rednecks.

[CapnAwesome]

I'd like to think that every time I post that challenge Mister Agenda is frantically searching through google page after google page scratching his head and going "No, somebody has to have said it, we can't just all have been replying to nothing"

Sadly, I just went to lunch and have to spare a little itme for work, not to mention my work system blocks most sites that would be good for such garnering.

Say, if you don't have such restrictions, why don't you go to Townhall.com and tell 'em Muslims aren't all bad?

Stop trying to change the subject. I made no claims about Townhall or anything to the like. I don't even know what that is and don't care. You on the other hand said that such a quote would be easy to find. That you'd have to be willfully ignorant to not have heard it. Out of curiosity I searched "All Muslims are terrorists" into google news and the first 10 pages were literally people arguing against this fictitious statement and one story from a minor newspaper where someone supposedly yelled that at a taxi driver before refusing to pay him.

Maybe that third hand hearsay is who is being popularly replied to?

Most of the articles follow along this line:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/christian-...95780.html

Cable networks are supposed to be for old white men and younger blond white women to complain about how there's an attack on Christianity and how all Muslims are terrorists and want to kill everyone everywhere!

There are literally thousands of articles similar that make the claim that people are saying this and 0 where anybody actually is. It's pretty outrageous and you being concerned about truth and all that should be similarly outraged.

[Mister Agenda]

But if it's a swarthy-skinned or slant-eyed foriegner, the response is...different. His race won't be questioned, but his nationality or religion will be used as a basis to drum up hate. But it's nothing to do with complexion. Honest.

You're right, it's not.

If I see a brown girl walking about and she's wearing 'western' clothing, perfectly 'assimilated' if you like into British culture, I wouldn't bat an eye. I see one wearing full hijab on the streets of Birmingham and I think "wtf, you're not in the middle east, why are you wearing that shit".

But that's got fuck all to do with race. It has to do with the stupid religion that dictates they wear such a thing. You could argue 'culture', has a lot more to do with it perhaps, but not race.

Can we please stop with this bullshit side-tracking deflection of the issue. This is not about race.

Well if you wouldn't bat an eye, that must mean that the overlap between racists and anti-Muslim bigots is just a coincidence and people getting beaten or shot for 'looking Muslim' in no way implies that their superficial ethnic characteristics have anything to do with bigots disliking them.

[Napoléon]

The perpertrators of most violent terrorist attacks on US soil in the last 30 years or the last 10 have been white non-muslims, so yes, I do deny it.

[Brian37]

Religion IS the cause of racism, ALL religions.

When you have a Hindu falsely call you a racist, even when you point out Indian atheists, born there with the same backgrounds, you know religion is the cause when they won't even listen to their fellow countrymen.

Black atheists in America get called traitors to their race for leaving Christianity too.

[Mister Agenda]

The perpertrators of most violent terrorist attacks on US soil in the last 30 years or the last 10 have been white non-muslims, so yes, I do deny it.

Whatever you just posted is blocked by my worksite's software. Would you summarize, please?

[Mister Agenda]

Religion IS the cause of racism, ALL religions.

When you have a Hindu falsely call you a racist, even when you point out Indian atheists, born there with the same backgrounds, you know religion is the cause when they won't even listen to their fellow countrymen.

Black atheists in America get called traitors to their race for leaving Christianity too.

I'd have to go with A cause, because there are racist atheists. Not talking about anyone here, mind. There are also homophobic atheists, prolife atheists, and so on.

[Napoléon]

Whatever you just posted is blocked by my worksite's software. Would you summarize, please?

Sure.


Responding to:

The perpertrators of most violent terrorist attacks on US soil in the last 30 years or the last 10 have been white non-muslims, so yes, I do deny it.

Summary: 9/11.

[Brian37]

Never claimed Atheists could not be racists, and that is why I warn even atheists against blind loyalty or stupid attempts to create their own moral code lists.

My best friend has an atheist uncle who is redneck who hates Obama. Difference right now for most western atheists is we are not a political majority. I do worry that some atheists do see themselves as above evlotion. They forget that what is passed down as far as ideas of empathy after we are gone it is not a given future atheist will hold the same views

[thehedglin]

Even if I included every abortion clinic bombing and racially motivated mass shooting in the list of terror attacks in the last decade, do you deny that the list would still remain fundamentally skewed? There does appear to be a correlation between the doctrines of Islam, and certain types of violent attacks, even if we do not know precisely why. Do you deny this?

The perpertrators of most violent terrorist attacks on US soil in the last 30 years or the last 10 have been white non-muslims, so yes, I do deny it.

Okay, so now we have a CLAIM. You claim the perpetrators of most violent terrorist attacks on US soil in the last thirty years, and the last decade, have been white non-muslims. Is this correct?

Also, given that not all forum participants are likely to live inside the United States, so the majority of attacks in their country are from Muslims, are they allowed to criticize Islam?

I am just asking, because I want to be sure I have your ACTUAL position, and not a strawman. I also want to be sure we have some defined claims, that way no goalpost-shifting can be said to have occurred.