Share Your Untestimony: Prayers that God didn't Answer

[The Valkyrie]

 I see you have a great fear of my questions, that's to bad was hoping to have good conversations with you, I see that want happen because of you great hatred for God and His people, what a waste of your life, in the end death will answer your foolish thoughts. I know for a fact God exists and what is this up there, God id were ever one needs to find Him.

GC

Are you having yet another bitch fit, because someone was mean about your most bestest, made-up fwiend ever?  Quit acting like a toddler. Rest assured that I do not hate your god. I feel nothing for your god, GC.
He isn't real.

I also have no fear of your stupid questions. I find it somewhat amusing that a grown man who's unable to
cope in life without comfort and guidance from an invisible friend, is accusing me of being fearful. That's projection like a motherfucker, isn't it? Have you ever considered the possibility that your questions simply aren't interesting or thought provoking? Do you not get that your grammar is fucking abysmal  and that your posts are barely coherent?

I'm a baddie, you're a goodie... blah, blah fucking blah. Whatever. 
I get it GC, you believe in god. Good for you. If you draw me a nice picture of your friend, I'll sure to put it on my refrigerator.

GC has an ego that his posts don't support.

I've given up on his crap.  He's the one remaining poster here that I've blocked.

[Nay_Sayer]

My mother was selfish for wanting her husband to live long enough to see a grandchild?
Wow...Just wow.

 If you had read my other post instead of jumping the gun you might have learned something about prayer and what my intentions were. So wow...just wow you need to find out what's going on before you judge. My reference was for most of the atheist who had posted prior to my post, not to you or any member of your family, you need to learn that posts do not necessarily refer to those who follow a particular post, grow up a little instead of jumping on the band wagon to run down others, you haven't been here long enough to assume anything about anyone.

GC

Nowhere in that run on sentence was an answer, But thanks for caring.

[KevinM1]

Because prayer is meant to change our minds to align ourselves with what God wants, not change what God is doing to suit what we want.

Problem is, what god wants fucking sucks. Moreover, it's done without consent.

[Drich]

[quote='Drich' pid='1029191' dateline='1440343122']
What your sister did may have been fervent and effectual, but it was not a prayer. Look at the example of the Lord's Prayer in luke 11 starting at verse 1. It begins with recognizing God deity and authority. Then we ask for Him to usher in His final kingdom over this world, and over our own hearts and minds. Then We are permitted to ask for our daily  needs, and to keep from evil... That's it. This is the only model of prayer we have been given. We don't have to pray those exact words,we can take that formula and put our own words in those subject matters. But those subjects make up what Christ Himself identified as a prayer. Everything else is petition. Petition meaning wishing or asking. 

Why aren't petitions prayer? Because prayer is meant to change our minds to align ourselves with what God wants, not change what God is doing to suit what we want. That idea is perverse. Does that mean we can't ask God for stuff? Absolutly not. Paul in his writings tells us several times we are to pray and petition God. The thing is most of us (pop Christianity as well as the rest of us) no longer know the difference between the two.

If you or your sister truly wanted to pray for your cousin you should ask that she find true contentment in her heart with what ever God has or has not given her. Not to ask God to conform to her will. If not getting something like a baby determines whether or not you maintain your belief means, you don't have the basic elements need to have had even been saved to begin with. Meaning because our greatest command is to love the Lord God with all of your being. If not having a baby becomes between you and God, then you can not have the love for God that is required to accept the atonement offer by Him.

God is not a genie that we can trade worship for wishes. This is what your op says you thought/think God is. If you three, had such a corrupt picture of God why would God then answer your petition? By doing so it would only strengthen your corrupt idea of God. Why would a God who wants to love you and you love who God really is.. Why would He support something that would only take you further from Him?

Know, God indeed answers ALL prayer. We have just forgotten what prayer really is.

Mark 11:24 "Whatsoever things you desire when you PRAY..."

verse fragment theology, and you wonder why God does not answer your 'prayer.'

Again God does not answer your 'prayer' because you have a corrupt idea of Him, and to answer your prayer would only re-enforce your inaccurate view of who God is.

Your verse fragment is apart of a greater teaching that is meant to turn the faith of Peter into strong belief. it starts at verse 12, and follows through 14. then picks up again at 20 through 26. We know this because in context Jesus is speaking specifically to Peter.

Jesus didn't make a distinction between petition and prayer, so where do you get that from?

It's not a new concept. Petition and or supplication is woven through out the new and Old testaments
https://www.biblegateway.com/quicksearch...rsion=NKJV
https://www.biblegateway.com/quicksearch...rsion=NKJV

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/petition
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/supplication

Again prayer is as follows because Jesus Himself told us when we PRAY say:
11 Now it came to pass, as He was praying in a certain place, when He ceased, that one of His disciples said to Him, “Lord, teach us to pray, as John also taught his disciples.”

2 So He said to them, “When you pray, say:


Our Father in heaven,[a]
Hallowed be Your name.
Your kingdom come.[b]
Your will be done
On earth as it is in heaven.

3
Give us day by day our daily bread.

4
And forgive us our sins,
For we also forgive everyone who is indebted to us.
And do not lead us into temptation,
But deliver us from the evil one.”[c]

The above prayer is Christ teaching 'us' How to pray. What prayer is. And again if you look at it, Christ's prayer is about changing our hearts and minds, not a way for us to Change God's.

Why do Christians give us grief about the sanctity of life if god is going to let a baby die because the person praying didn't follow some fucking formula?

The formula is not about saving a baby. it's about getting your sister to accept it maybe God's will that she first learn to love/want Him more, than the baby. Again Our greatest command is to Love God with all of our being first, and then everything and everyone else follows. If God gave her baby first, then she would be lost to Him.

If we can learn to ask for the ablity to do this our capacity to love expands 10 fold. so the 'left over love' is far greater than anything we could offer on our own.

[Drich]

Because prayer is meant to change our minds to align ourselves with what God wants, not change what God is doing to suit what we want.

Problem is, what god wants fucking sucks.  Moreover, it's done without consent.

I disagree. although I will concede it may seem like it would suck for a time. However if one see past the 'suck' then life can be far greater than you could ever hope or want for.

[Rhondazvous]

Are you having yet another bitch fit, because someone was mean about your most bestest, made-up fwiend ever?  Quit acting like a toddler. Rest assured that I do not hate your god. I feel nothing for your god, GC.
He isn't real.

I also have no fear of your stupid questions. I find it somewhat amusing that a grown man who's unable to
cope in life without comfort and guidance from an invisible friend, is accusing me of being fearful. That's projection like a motherfucker, isn't it? Have you ever considered the possibility that your questions simply aren't interesting or thought provoking? Do you not get that your grammar is fucking abysmal  and that your posts are barely coherent?

I'm a baddie, you're a goodie... blah, blah fucking blah. Whatever. 
I get it GC, you believe in god. Good for you. If you draw me a nice picture of your friend, I'll be sure to put it on my refrigerator.

We spent a great deal of time and many pages trying to explain to these sharp as a bowling ball imbeciles that it's not possible to hate someone we don't believe exists. Yet, they continue with this same old tired refrain. It's called the broken record. When I was a student at Biola, the Bible professors taught us that this is a good method of debating. Just keep saying the same thing over and over.

[Foxaèr]

However if one see past the 'suck' then life can be far greater than you could ever hope or want for.

So, you are basically referring to the aspect of ignoring reality for the benefit of the delusion that makes one feel better rather than the harshness of the truth in relation to the reality.

Yes, you religious people are fucked up.

[Drich]

However if one see past the 'suck' then life can be far greater than you could ever hope or want for.

So, you are basically referring to the aspect of ignoring reality for the benefit of the delusion that makes one feel better rather than the harshness of the truth in relation to the reality.  

Yes, you religious people are fucked up.

Sorry kit, no. What I'm talking about is not bailing out when things get tough. What I am also talking about is if you can reamin faithful through the tough time your world view will change so then God can bless you beyond measure and it not corrupt your core being.

What's 'f-ed up' is you can not recognize the hallmarks of earnest devotion or the fact that you think that level of devotion is a negative quality..

[Combanitorics]

The only time I ever really prayed was when I was required to do so for some event, like dinner or midweek prayer meeting.  The church emphasized thanking God for adversity, because adversity gives us a chance to develop our characters for the next life.  As far as I'm concerned, I can develop my own character perfectly well without God.  Other than that, it seems a bit ridiculous.  If I'm to take their directions to the natural conclusion of the matter, I might as well pray and thank God for Satan, war, famine, crime, and all other things evil.  God doesn't change things for  people, he just stands there and says something like, "oh good, that person is learning to trust me by going through all of that misery and abuse."  Well misery and abuse didn't lead me to trust God.

[Nay_Sayer]

So, you are basically referring to the aspect of ignoring reality for the benefit of the delusion that makes one feel better rather than the harshness of the truth in relation to the reality.  

Yes, you religious people are fucked up.

Sorry kit, no. What I'm talking about is not bailing out when things get tough. What I am also talking about is if you can reamin faithful through the tough time your world view will change so then God can bless you beyond measure and it not corrupt your core being.

What's 'f-ed up' is you can not recognize the hallmarks of earnest devotion or the fact that you think that level of devotion is a negative quality..

FSM tightened up my core with an ab routine.

FSM: 37,980,465
christian god: 0