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Share Your Untestimony: Prayers that God didn't Answer
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RE: Share Your Untestimony: Prayers that God didn't Answer
Things aren't working out with Magi.
God is fake.
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#62
RE: Share Your Untestimony: Prayers that God didn't Answer
I have prayed for world peace, and an end to suffering, disease and hunger.

Obviously I didn't believe I was actually talking to anyone, but I thought I'd give it a try, for whoever might be listening.

No, that didn't work. God's plan does not include things like that, nor is he willing to adjust it to include those things.

I accept the world for what it is, maddening and saddening thought it is. To try and suggest there is a purpose to all the horrific random suffering in the world is just a deluded way of dealing with it, I suppose. Or worse, that those people and animals actually deserve it.
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#63
RE: Share Your Untestimony: Prayers that God didn't Answer
(August 20, 2015 at 8:19 pm)Rhondazvous Wrote: My cousin suffered multiple miscarriages because of fibroids. The last time she got pregnant, we were doing a three-way with my sister and decided to pray for her. My sister led the prayer. I never knew my sister could pray like that. It was a fervent, effectual prayer, the kind the Bible says availeth much. I thought for sure if god answered any prayer, it would be that one. My cousin lost that baby in the most emotionally painful miscarriage she’d ever had. Nothing was said about the prayer. They just swept it under the rug and I wondered if I was the only one who noticed how lumpy that rug was becoming.

One day, my cousin was sitting in church during baby dedications. The pastor, bless his heart, was trying to encourage the parents to be good parents, telling them god had entrusted them with the little souls. He was just trying to encourage them, but my cousin took it as an indictment. She ran out of the church in tears convinced that the reason she could not have a baby was because god did not trust her.

She never asked why, if god were in the business of keeping untrustworthy women from having babies, why was her husband’s daughter allowed to be born. Her husband’s daughter was beat up by her other’s lesbian lover. Why god want to pick on my little cousin?  “Oh she’s a particularly bad woman. We better not let her have any kids.”

God will answer your prayers about little stupid things that you could do for yourself, but the one’s he doesn’t answer are the ones where people are really hurting, really in need and have nothing else that they can do.

I’m tired of Christians giving their testimonies that do nothing but show how screwed up their priorities are. I want to hear the untestimonies of those who asked god for something that any loving god would have granted.

What your sister did may have been fervent and effectual, but it was not a prayer. Look at the example of the Lord's Prayer in luke 11 starting at verse 1. It begins with recognizing God deity and authority. Then we ask for Him to usher in His final kingdom over this world, and over our own hearts and minds. Then We are permitted to ask for our daily  needs, and to keep from evil... That's it. This is the only model of prayer we have been given. We don't have to pray those exact words,we can take that formula and put our own words in those subject matters. But those subjects make up what Christ Himself identified as a prayer. Everything else is petition. Petition meaning wishing or asking. 

Why aren't petitions prayer? Because prayer is meant to change our minds to align ourselves with what God wants, not change what God is doing to suit what we want. That idea is perverse. Does that mean we can't ask God for stuff? Absolutly not. Paul in his writings tells us several times we are to pray and petition God. The thing is most of us (pop Christianity as well as the rest of us) no longer know the difference between the two.

If you or your sister truly wanted to pray for your cousin you should ask that she find true contentment in her heart with what ever God has or has not given her. Not to ask God to conform to her will. If not getting something like a baby determines whether or not you maintain your belief means, you don't have the basic elements need to have had even been saved to begin with. Meaning because our greatest command is to love the Lord God with all of your being. If not having a baby becomes between you and God, then you can not have the love for God that is required to accept the atonement offer by Him.

God is not a genie that we can trade worship for wishes. This is what your op says you thought/think God is. If you three, had such a corrupt picture of God why would God then answer your petition? By doing so it would only strengthen your corrupt idea of God. Why would a God who wants to love you and you love who God really is.. Why would He support something that would only take you further from Him?

Know, God indeed answers ALL prayer. We have just forgotten what prayer really is.
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RE: Share Your Untestimony: Prayers that God didn't Answer
(August 21, 2015 at 10:31 am)Godschild Wrote: The sad thing here is you all prayed selfishly, I want, I want, I want. You should of learned to pray.

GC

My mother was selfish for wanting her husband to live long enough to see a grandchild?
Wow...Just wow.
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RE: Share Your Untestimony: Prayers that God didn't Answer
(August 23, 2015 at 4:09 pm)Nay_Sayer Wrote: My mother was selfish for wanting her husband to live long enough to see a grandchild?
Wow...Just wow.

Uhm, yes.

That's considered selfish with christians as well as wiccans. The only difference being the use of prayer vs the use of magic.
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RE: Share Your Untestimony: Prayers that God didn't Answer
(August 23, 2015 at 11:18 am)Drich Wrote: What your sister did may have been fervent and effectual, but it was not a prayer. Look at the example of the Lord's Prayer in luke 11 starting at verse 1. It begins with recognizing God deity and authority. Then we ask for Him to usher in His final kingdom over this world, and over our own hearts and minds. Then We are permitted to ask for our daily  needs, and to keep from evil... That's it. This is the only model of prayer we have been given. We don't have to pray those exact words,we can take that formula and put our own words in those subject matters. But those subjects make up what Christ Himself identified as a prayer. Everything else is petition. Petition meaning wishing or asking. 

Why aren't petitions prayer? Because prayer is meant to change our minds to align ourselves with what God wants, not change what God is doing to suit what we want. That idea is perverse. Does that mean we can't ask God for stuff? Absolutly not. Paul in his writings tells us several times we are to pray and petition God. The thing is most of us (pop Christianity as well as the rest of us) no longer know the difference between the two.

If you or your sister truly wanted to pray for your cousin you should ask that she find true contentment in her heart with what ever God has or has not given her. Not to ask God to conform to her will. If not getting something like a baby determines whether or not you maintain your belief means, you don't have the basic elements need to have had even been saved to begin with. Meaning because our greatest command is to love the Lord God with all of your being. If not having a baby becomes between you and God, then you can not have the love for God that is required to accept the atonement offer by Him.

God is not a genie that we can trade worship for wishes. This is what your op says you thought/think God is. If you three, had such a corrupt picture of God why would God then answer your petition? By doing so it would only strengthen your corrupt idea of God. Why would a God who wants to love you and you love who God really is.. Why would He support something that would only take you further from Him?

Know, God indeed answers ALL prayer. We have just forgotten what prayer really is.
Mark 11:24 "Whatsoever things you desire when you PRAY..."

Jesus didn't make a distinction between petition and prayer, so where do you get that from?

Why do Christians give us grief about the sanctity of life if god is going to let a baby die because the person praying didn't follow some fucking formula?
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RE: Share Your Untestimony: Prayers that God didn't Answer
(August 23, 2015 at 4:09 pm)Nay_Sayer Wrote:
(August 21, 2015 at 10:31 am)Godschild Wrote: The sad thing here is you all prayed selfishly, I want, I want, I want. You should of learned to pray.

GC

My mother was selfish for wanting her husband to live long enough to see a grandchild?
Wow...Just wow.

 If you had read my other post instead of jumping the gun you might have learned something about prayer and what my intentions were. So wow...just wow you need to find out what's going on before you judge. My reference was for most of the atheist who had posted prior to my post, not to you or any member of your family, you need to learn that posts do not necessarily refer to those who follow a particular post, grow up a little instead of jumping on the band wagon to run down others, you haven't been here long enough to assume anything about anyone.

GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: Share Your Untestimony: Prayers that God didn't Answer
(August 22, 2015 at 5:34 pm)Thena323 Wrote: If your prayer is answered, that means god truly answers prayers..........Yay!
If your prayer is answered 20 years later, that means god still answers prayers-  not on your timing, but his because he still had work to do in you...Yay!
If your prayer is not answered, then god has a good reason or it's not his will. He has another plan for you.....Yay!
If your prayer is not answered AND something really horrible as a result, then god is testing you.......Yay!

Every possible scenario and outcome ends up being a net positive, when you engage in magical thinking. How fucking convenient.

Good grief, GC. 
There's no one up there.

 I see you have a great fear of my questions, that's to bad was hoping to have good conversations with you, I see that want happen because of you great hatred for God and His people, what a waste of your life, in the end death will answer your foolish thoughts. I know for a fact God exists and what is this up there, God id were ever one needs to find Him.

GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: Share Your Untestimony: Prayers that God didn't Answer
(August 23, 2015 at 5:10 pm)Godschild Wrote: I see that want happen because of you great hatred for God and His people, what a waste of your life, in the end death will answer your foolish thoughts. I know for a fact God exists and what is this up there, God id were ever one needs to find Him.

GC


Oh, come on. That's low. What in Thena's post does make you think she hates what you call god's people? Also, the hating god argument is kinda low and hasn't got any base. Neither in the post you quoted nor in reality. You still fail to understand what god means for us. Something on the same lines as Zeus, Odin or Bigfoot. Like many theists you're projecting. God is important for you. I get and respect that and I'm certainly not out to try and convert you. But respect isn't a one way street. You might try to actually walk in the shoes of others for some time and try to understand what they are saying.
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RE: Share Your Untestimony: Prayers that God didn't Answer
(August 23, 2015 at 5:10 pm)Godschild Wrote:
(August 22, 2015 at 5:34 pm)Thena323 Wrote: If your prayer is answered, that means god truly answers prayers..........Yay!
If your prayer is answered 20 years later, that means god still answers prayers-  not on your timing, but his because he still had work to do in you...Yay!
If your prayer is not answered, then god has a good reason or it's not his will. He has another plan for you.....Yay!
If your prayer is not answered AND something really horrible as a result, then god is testing you.......Yay!

Every possible scenario and outcome ends up being a net positive, when you engage in magical thinking. How fucking convenient.

Good grief, GC. 
There's no one up there.

 I see you have a great fear of my questions, that's to bad was hoping to have good conversations with you, I see that want happen because of you great hatred for God and His people, what a waste of your life, in the end death will answer your foolish thoughts. I know for a fact God exists and what is this up there, God id were ever one needs to find Him.

GC
Are you having yet another bitch fit, because someone was mean about your most bestest, made-up fwiend ever?  Quit acting like a toddler. Rest assured that I do not hate your god. I feel nothing for your god, GC.
He isn't real.

I also have no fear of your stupid questions. I find it somewhat amusing that a grown man who's unable to
cope in life without comfort and guidance from an invisible friend, is accusing me of being fearful. That's projection like a motherfucker, isn't it? Have you ever considered the possibility that your questions simply aren't interesting or thought provoking? Do you not get that your grammar is fucking abysmal  and that your posts are barely coherent?

I'm a baddie, you're a goodie... blah, blah fucking blah. Whatever. 
I get it GC, you believe in god. Good for you. If you draw me a nice picture of your friend, I'll be sure to put it on my refrigerator.
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