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RE: cannibalism and you (christianity)
August 27, 2015 at 2:00 pm
The option of being burned at the stake for doubting Aristotle helps a lot with the understanding.
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RE: cannibalism and you (christianity)
August 27, 2015 at 2:00 pm
Both Justin Martyr, c 160 and Origen c 250, defended against this charge of "cannibalism." They would not have been defending against a charge which was not being made.
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RE: cannibalism and you (christianity)
August 27, 2015 at 2:11 pm
Great. Now all I got in my head is crackers turning into dicks as the priest sticks it in.
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RE: cannibalism and you (christianity)
August 27, 2015 at 2:33 pm
I think governmental Health and Safety departments should look into this "trans-substantiation" thing.
Feeding the general public 2000 years old human flesh, presumably raw, at room temperature, with bare hands and no sanitation - that can't be compliant with food hygiene standards.
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RE: cannibalism and you (christianity)
August 27, 2015 at 3:17 pm
Hey, if you're hungry enough.
I must admit, even as a kid I found the concept disturbing in Catholicism.
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RE: cannibalism and you (christianity)
August 27, 2015 at 3:36 pm
(August 27, 2015 at 3:17 pm)Beccs Wrote: Hey, if you're hungry enough.
I must admit, even as a kid I found the concept disturbing in Catholicism.
And then you became a surgeon?
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RE: cannibalism and you (christianity)
August 28, 2015 at 7:12 pm
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(August 27, 2015 at 1:28 pm)dyresand Wrote: Cannibalism is fine in the confines of eating the bread and drinking the blood of your savior.
..........WHY ON EARTH DO YOU THINK EATING THE FLESH.. *ahem* flesh and drinking the blood of your savior is a good idea.
I mean we can know cannibalism is wrong even metaphorical cannibalism should be frowned upon as well.
The body, blood, soul and divinity of Jesus are substantially present in the Eucharist, but the accidents of bread and wine remain.
This article will help:
Are Catholics Cannibals?
Tim Staples
http://www.catholic.com/blog/tim-staples...-cannibals
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RE: cannibalism and you (christianity)
August 28, 2015 at 7:45 pm
(August 28, 2015 at 7:12 pm)Randy Carson Wrote: The body, blood, soul and divinity of Jesus are substantially present in the Eucharist, but the accidents of bread and wine remain.
This article will help:
Are Catholics Cannibals?
Tim Staples
http://www.catholic.com/blog/tim-staples...-cannibals
That article basically splits hairs to define around cannibalism as a violent act.
Got anything better?
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RE: cannibalism and you (christianity)
August 28, 2015 at 8:43 pm
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(August 28, 2015 at 7:45 pm)Spooky Wrote: (August 28, 2015 at 7:12 pm)Randy Carson Wrote: The body, blood, soul and divinity of Jesus are substantially present in the Eucharist, but the accidents of bread and wine remain.
This article will help:
Are Catholics Cannibals?
Tim Staples
http://www.catholic.com/blog/tim-staples...-cannibals
That article basically splits hairs to define around cannibalism as a violent act.
Got anything better?
Well i'm off to eat some babies.. i mean sandwiches delicious sandwiches yeah... sandwiches <_<
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RE: cannibalism and you (christianity)
August 28, 2015 at 8:46 pm
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(August 28, 2015 at 8:43 pm)dyresand Wrote: (August 28, 2015 at 7:45 pm)Spooky Wrote: That article basically splits hairs to define around cannibalism as a violent act.
Got anything better?
Well i'm off to eat some babies.. i mean sandwiches delicious sandwiches yeah... sandwiches <_<
Assuming that baby died of natural causes (IE you didn't kill it) and you eat the whole thing, it's apparently not considered cannibalism.
Quote:1. In cannibalism, the person consumed is, generally speaking, killed. Jesus is not killed. We receive him in his resurrected body and we do not affect him in the least. In fact, he is not changed in the slightest. He changes us! This is far from cannibalism.
2. In cannibalism, only part of the victim is consumed. One does not eat the bones, sinews, etc. In the Eucharist, we consume every bit of the Lord, eyes, hair, blood, bones, etc. But again, I emphasize that we do so under the appearances of bread and wine. This is essentially different than cannibalism, which leads to our next point:
3. In cannibalism, the accidents of blood and flesh are consumed. One must tear flesh, drink blood, etc. In the Eucharist, we only consume the accidents of bread and wine. This is not cannibalism.
4. In cannibalism, one only consumes a body, not a person. The person and the soul of the victim would have departed. In the Eucharist, we consume the entire person of Jesus Christ, body, blood, soul and divinity. One cannot separate Christ’s body from his Divine Person. Thus, this is a spiritual communion as well as a physical consuming. We become one with Christ on a mystical level in this sacrament. This is far from cannibalism.
5. In cannibalism, one only receives temporal nourishment that is fleeting. In the Eucharist, we receive the divine life of God through faith and receiving our Lord well-disposed, i.e. we receive everlasting life (cf. John 6:52-55). This is essentially different than cannibalism.
6. In cannibalism, once one eats the flesh of the victim, it is gone forever. In the Eucharist, we can consume him every day and, as mentioned in #1, we do not change him one bit. He remains the same.
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