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The "not all Muslims are terrorists" fallacy
September 8, 2015 at 11:16 am
There maybe a logical fallacy for this all ready, but here is my idea for this
This a logical fallacy commonly made when arguing against the actions of people that follow particular ideology where instead responding appropriately to the argument at hand, you make an erroneous assertion that the argument only applies to a small subset of people. For example
Me: islam is responsible for religious violence per capita then any other religion.
You: but not all Muslims are terrorists!.
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
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RE: The "not all Muslims are terrorists" fallacy
September 8, 2015 at 11:26 am
(September 8, 2015 at 11:16 am)Lemonvariable72 Wrote: Me: islam is responsible for religious violence per capita then any other religion.
You: based on what?
Fixed that, since you didn't provide the right answer to the statement.
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RE: The "not all Muslims are terrorists" fallacy
September 8, 2015 at 11:59 am
(September 8, 2015 at 11:16 am)Lemonvariable72 Wrote: Me: islam is responsible for religious violence per capita then any other religion.
You: but not all Muslims are terrorists!.
I'm going with a garden-variety red herring fallacy:
Quote:As an informal fallacy, the red herring falls into a broad class of relevance fallacies. Unlike the straw man, which is premised on a distortion of the other party's position,[2] the red herring is a seemingly plausible, though ultimately irrelevant, diversionary tactic.[3] According to the Oxford English Dictionary, a red herring may be intentional, or unintentional; it does not necessarily mean a conscious intent to mislead.[1]
The expression is mainly used to assert that an argument is not relevant to the issue being discussed. For example, "I think that we should make the academic requirements stricter for students. I recommend that you support this because we are in a budget crisis and we do not want our salaries affected." The second sentence, though used to support the first sentence, does not address that topic.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_herring
Or perhaps, a variant of straw man. The "you" response, does not address the claim made by "Me" and is irrelevant to the claim being made.
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RE: The "not all Muslims are terrorists" fallacy
September 8, 2015 at 1:36 pm
And this is the best response I've seen to the fallacy:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ry3NzkAOo3s
(Well, I guess she doesn't explicitly say "not all muslims are terrorists", but it's essentially the same argument)
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RE: The "not all Muslims are terrorists" fallacy
September 8, 2015 at 3:31 pm
(September 8, 2015 at 11:26 am)abaris Wrote: (September 8, 2015 at 11:16 am)Lemonvariable72 Wrote: Me: islam is responsible for religious violence per capita then any other religion.
You: based on what?
Fixed that, since you didn't provide the right answer to the statement.
That was really just intended as a example of how it plays out in many conversations.
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
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RE: The "not all Muslims are terrorists" fallacy
September 8, 2015 at 4:18 pm
(September 8, 2015 at 3:31 pm)Lemonvariable72 Wrote: That was really just intended as a example of how it plays out in many conversations.
Usually it's not that straight. At least in my experience.
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RE: The "not all Muslims are terrorists" fallacy
September 8, 2015 at 4:39 pm
(September 8, 2015 at 1:36 pm)Napoléon Wrote: And this is the best response I've seen to the fallacy:
(Well, I guess she doesn't explicitly say "not all muslims are terrorists", but it's essentially the same argument)
That was fantastic thank you for sharing!
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RE: The "not all Muslims are terrorists" fallacy
September 8, 2015 at 5:37 pm
(September 8, 2015 at 4:18 pm)abaris Wrote: (September 8, 2015 at 3:31 pm)Lemonvariable72 Wrote: That was really just intended as a example of how it plays out in many conversations.
Usually it's not that straight. At least in my experience.
It's not. But I was simply trying to be clear and concise.
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
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RE: The "not all Muslims are terrorists" fallacy
September 8, 2015 at 5:49 pm
(September 8, 2015 at 5:37 pm)Lemonvariable72 Wrote: It's not. But I was simply trying to be clear and concise.
But in my opinion that's the real fallacy. Trying to turn something complicated into something simple. Blanket statements are made by both sides, but they're not as clear cut as in your example. And they have to be adressed individually, not via their own blanket statement.
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RE: The "not all Muslims are terrorists" fallacy
September 8, 2015 at 6:11 pm
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